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I'm a Calvinist. Change My Mind.

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Saved-By-Grace

Saved-By-Grace

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thatbrian said:
I asked: Are your doctrinal positions not interrelated? I did not ask if they were perfect. What I mean is, what you think about God affects your view of sin, and you're view of sin and that impacts what you think regarding salvation. . .

Also, I have never met a person who thinks his doctrine is "100% right", and I know a lot of Reformed folks.
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My personal view of “soteriology” does not affect all of my doctrines. Why should it? Surely Theology proper, which is the study of Almighty God, is what should be our guide in all we believe and do!
 
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Saved-By-Grace said:
I also have reformed friends, and attend a reformed Church. I am yet to hear even ONE say they have some of their theology wrong!
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First of all, I sincerely doubt you have friends. And if you show the same contempt for Reformed believers in real life as you do here, then I doubt even more that you have Reformed friends.

Second, of course they believe their doctrine is correct or else they wouldn't believe it. Kind of embarrassed for you that I have to point that out to you. But one can believe something to be correct while still allowing for the possibility of being wrong.

Third, maybe they really do believe what you say. They could just be jerks.

Fourth, have you admitted any of your theology to be wrong?

Fifth, why are you attending a Reformed church when you say that Reformed theology is a false gospel?
 
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Saved-By-Grace said:
The Triune God is the Hub. True Christianity is not "oneness" in its theology!
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Nobody is talking about oneness. But all the Old Testament points forward to Christ. All the New Testament points back at Christ. Even the Holy Spirit testifies of Christ, not of Himself.
 
Saved-By-Grace

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JohnDeereFan said:
Nobody is talking about oneness. But all the Old Testament points forward to Christ. All the New Testament points back at Christ. Even the Holy Spirit testifies of Christ, not of Himself.
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I know it does. But, the Father and Holy Spirit are just as important in the Church, as Jesus Christ is!
 
thatbrian

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Saved-By-Grace said:
My personal view of “soteriology” does not affect all of my doctrines. Why should it? Surely Theology proper, which is the study of Almighty God, is what should be our guide in all we believe and do!
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Think about it a bit. I think you'll see my point.
 
Saved-By-Grace

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JohnDeereFan said:
First of all, I sincerely doubt you have friends. And if you show the same contempt for Reformed believers in real life as you do here, then I doubt even more that you have Reformed friends.

Second, of course they believe their doctrine is correct or else they wouldn't believe it. Kind of embarrassed for you that I have to point that out to you. But one can believe something to be correct while still allowing for the possibility of being wrong.

Third, maybe they really do believe what you say. They could just be jerks.

Fourth, have you admitted any of your theology to be wrong?

Fifth, why are you attending a Reformed church when you say that Reformed theology is a false gospel?
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You must be a snip as you think that you know me!
 
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Saved-By-Grace said:
I know it does. But, the Father and Holy Spirit are just as important in the Church, as Jesus Christ is!
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Notice that Jesus didn't say, "the scriptures testify of the Triune God", but that "the scriptures testify of Me". Nor did he say, "the Holy Spirit will testify of the Triune God", but that "the Holy Spirit will testify of Me".
 
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InTheLight

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Rippon said:
Can someone figuratively change their mind?
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BobRyan

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Dear Ones Beloved of the Father,

Two points on these issues may be helpful. Both demand a little Systematic Theology.

First, Paul says in Ephesians 2 that we, that is the natural man, is dead in trespasses and sins.

Second, Jesus said, of Himself, in John 11 that he was the resurrection.

Conclusion, for someone to be "born again" or "born from above" they must be resurrected. How can dead men raise themselves to life? How is it that dead men "exercise their free will" in spiritual matters?

It seems the Scripture says we love him because he first loved us. Or can I assume that this statement has nothing to do with God's initiatory step as "author and finisher" of our faith.

Thank you and please think on that.

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Both the Arminian and Calvinist model call for the New Birth as basic to the Gospel.

But in the Bible - no text says "you first be born again to accept the Gospel" - that is a much hoped-for text in Calvinism that does not exist.

John 6 does not say that no one will come to Christ unless they are first born again -- rather as Romans 10 points out - man first chooses then acts.. then salvation ... which is what can happen as a consequence of God "drawing ALL mankind" unto Him John 12:32.

Still... "He came to His OWN and His own received Him not" John 1:11

John 3:16 "God so loved the World" -- not "just the elect" ... before the foundations of the world.
God first loved us.
 
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