I'm scratching my head on this one

[T Alan]

Really folks, let's be satisfied with this. What more do you expect him to do?
This is 'their party', not our's.

But I can still cry if I want to. Right? jkjkjkjjk

 

[kyredneck]

...trust me, we have enough crybabies and 'little girls' on board already....

 

[OldRegular]

...trust me, we have enough crybabies and 'little girls' on board already....

You call me crybaby one more time and "you are going to get it"!

 

[kyredneck]

...so what are you going to do briar-hopper, look at me cross-eyed? .... :laugh:

...done told you, I ain't scared of no Bakers, I live with the meanest woman this side of Breathitt....

 

[Yeshua1]

Why?!

This is exactly what happens when DHK is allowed to question the salvation of an entire segment of Christianity. He was allowed--by you, I might add--to continue to do so. Should it really surprise you that "his non-Calvinism or bust" fire was met with some version of "Calvinism or bust" fire???

Since you didn't censor DHK, what did you expect?

Rippon was merely doing--in reverse--what DHK had done. Why would you have a problem with what Rippon said if you don't have a problem with what DHK said????

The Archangel

To be fair here though...

Did DHK state that all reformed or Calvinist are following a false Gospel, or just that the new calvinist group was promoting a false one?

 

[JohnDeereFan]

Many here take issue with the way I've dealt with DHK.

1. I think many here are making way too much of the Mod title in his name block. It's almost as if he's not allowed to have deeply held sentiments right or wrong.
2. DHK to the best of my knowledge has not individualized any charges not being saved. He has made some statements about a group. Many here identify themselves with that group. Which, regretfully, raises the emotional tempurature.

As for this not being a multiple choice question, if we take a binary approach to this matter, there is no need for this debate.

Now, you're just being coy.

If DHK has, indeed, questioned the salvation of a large number of posters here, and that is against the rules, then he needs to be held accountable.

Obviously, I know that will never happen.

In addition, if he believes that we are not saved merely because we hold to the Doctrines of Grace, then that means that a message board that is Christian in nature, if not in application, has chosen people for their moderating staff who are not familiar with Christian doctrine, in this case, soteriology?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Now, you're just being coy.

If DHK has, indeed, questioned the salvation of a large number of posters here, and that is against the rules, then he needs to be held accountable.

Obviously, I know that will never happen.

In addition, if he believes that we are not saved merely because we hold to the Doctrines of Grace, then that means that a message board that is Christian in nature, if not in application, has chosen people for their moderating staff who are not familiar with Christian doctrine, in this case, soteriology?

LOL.... wouldn't that be a perfect example of the Elect? .....er & Temporal Salvation?!? :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

...so what are you going to do briar-hopper, look at me cross-eyed? .... :laugh:

...done told you, I ain't scared of no Bakers, I live with the meanest woman this side of Breathitt....

My heart bleeds for you Larry:laugh:

Try a German/Scots woman from NJ.... does the expression, "being pulled through a keyhole backwards" mean anything to you? :thumbsup:

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Wait....aint Willis Fletcher from there? Be he a Hatfield or a Macoy?!?:tongue3:

 

[Rippon]

To be fair here though...

Did DHK state that all reformed or Calvinist are following a false Gospel, or just that the new calvinist group was promoting a false one?

On 1/24/2014 DHK said:

"The Calvinist trail ends in death."

 

[Iconoclast]

On 1/24/2014 DHK said:

"The Calvinist trail ends in death."

lol..in the questions for cals thread he tries to say Spurgeon was an Arminian..lol who fought against Calvinism:laugh::laugh:

 

[DHK]

Now, you're just being coy.

If DHK has, indeed, questioned the salvation of a large number of posters here, and that is against the rules, then he needs to be held accountable.

Obviously, I know that will never happen.

In addition, if he believes that we are not saved merely because we hold to the Doctrines of Grace, then that means that a message board that is Christian in nature, if not in application, has chosen people for their moderating staff who are not familiar with Christian doctrine, in this case, soteriology?

If someone is making allegations against another poster, whether they think it is true or not, they better have a direct quote on hand. Otherwise it is just hearsay and gossip. That in and of itself is sin.

 

[DHK]

lol..in the questions for cals thread he tries to say Spurgeon was an Arminian..lol who fought against Calvinism:laugh::laugh:

Only a fool will parrot a person giving second-hand information with no direct quote. This is hearsay and gossip. Now who is in the wrong?

 

[JohnDeereFan]

If someone is making allegations against another poster, whether they think it is true or not, they better have a direct quote on hand. Otherwise it is just hearsay and gossip. That in and of itself is sin.

You know what "if DHK said..." means, right? I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

I could have just as easily jumped on the bandwagon and said "because DHK said..." but I didn't because I didn't know whether or not you actually said those things.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

It comes down to where and when. Please copy the url of the place cited.

You know what "if DHK said..." means, right? I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

I could have just as easily jumped on the bandwagon and said "because DHK said..." but I didn't because I didn't know whether or not you actually said those things.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

It comes down to where and when. Please copy the url of the place cited.

So, let me get this straight: I'm the one giving him the benefit of the doubt and you're now challenging me to show evidence against him?

For somebody who just got caught using multiple accounts to troll, I'd think you'd be a little more willing to cut somebody a little slack who's sticking up for one of your colleagues.

 

[Yeshua1]

Only a fool will parrot a person giving second-hand information with no direct quote. This is hearsay and gossip. Now who is in the wrong?

You did seem to be stating that Spurgeon was not a real calvinist, as in beingone holding to all 5 points of Grace though, correct?

 

[BobRyan]

Back to the OP - Calvinism and Arminianism are two very different descriptions of God and how salvation works - two different Gospels entirely - the models are totally incompatible.

I happen to believe that the Arminian one is right and is the one you find in the Bible. However it does not surprise me in the least that the Calvinist also admits that the two models are totally incompatible and that he/she would like to think that the bible supports Calvinism and not the Arminian position.

Think about that for a second - each side is saying that the bible does not support the other view - or in fact flatly condemns it.

Thus we must "expect" that the view of such a supposedly non-Bible sort of Gospel is going to be to condemn it as "not the Gospel" or some sort of thing like that.

I personally believe that both Calvinists and Arminians go to heaven if they are true Christians - but when they get there one group is going to be told that their Gospel was wrong - if they don't figure it out while here on earth "Sola scriptura".

in Christ,

Bob

 

[Squire Robertsson]

In other words, my question was does DHK's position lie outside Biblical Theology?

 

[BobRyan]

Many here take issue with the way I've dealt with DHK.

1. I think many here are making way too much of the Mod title in his name block. It's almost as if he's not allowed to have deeply held sentiments right or wrong.
2. DHK to the best of my knowledge has not individualized any charges not being saved. He has made some statements about a group. Many here identify themselves with that group. Which, regretfully, raises the emotional tempurature.

As for this not being a multiple choice question, if we take a binary approach to this matter, there is no need for this debate.

I don't know much about the history of specific events leading to this thread -- so I am not commenting on that but I do have a question.

Your title says "Administrator" and DHK's says "Mod" - what is the difference for BB??

in Christ,

Bob