Important first questions

[Van]

Thank you for your response. Your point number 2 is what gave me concern. The lady that introduced me to this forum told me about this. She even gave me three usernames to watch out for. And I certainly shall. This is not Christlike behavior, more like the Pharisees and scribes.

To give you an example of an entrapment question, I could ask you which Mods act like Pharisees. Since to bad mouth Mods and (Admins) is a banning offense, I am setting you up. Often, folks say "so you are saying... and then what follows is some heresy. If I respond in the affirmative, I have been marginalized.

Other, less than mature behaviors are to answer a question with a question, say what you do not believe, but not to clearly present what you do believe. Of course you will see against the man arguments, I am often told my views are wrong, without presenting an alternate view.

All we can do is clearly present our view (whether it is a correct view or a mistaken view) and hope someone else either affirms it or provides evidence from scripture against it, and an alternate more biblical view.

 

[FreeBaptist]

To give you an example of an entrapment question, I could ask you which Mods act like Pharisees. Since to bad mouth Mods and (Admins) is a banning offense, I am setting you up. Often, folks say "so you are saying... and then what follows is some heresy. If I respond in the affirmative, I have been marginalized.

Other, less than mature behaviors are to answer a question with a question, say what you do not believe, but not to clearly present what you do believe. Of course you will see against the man arguments, I am often told my views are wrong, without presenting an alternate view.

All we can do is clearly present our view (whether it is a correct view or a mistaken view) and hope someone else either affirms it or provides evidence from scripture against it, and an alternate more biblical view.

Yes, I see what you are talking about.

 

[Rob_BW]

I’ve found this forum to be far more open than other Christian forums.

There are a few primary things that will get you banished.

1. Denying the inspiration of any of the 66 books of the Bible.

2. Denying the divinity of Christ.

3. Saying another forum member does not have salvation.

4. Posting videos without responding to comments.

5. Repeated name-calling.

A lot of forum posters get banned on the first two. I’m perfectly ok with this since I consider that to be the basis of Christianity and there is absolutely no point in discussing anything with someone who doesn’t believe these fundamental principles.

This is a conservative forum, both in politics and in religious beliefs. I know liberal theologians like to play loose with the first two I’ve numbered and if you tend that way, I’d go elsewhere.

I’ve found this forum to be far more open than other Christian forums.

There are a few primary things that will get you banished.

1. Denying the inspiration of any of the 66 books of the Bible.

2. Denying the divinity of Christ.

3. Saying another forum member does not have salvation.

4. Posting videos without responding to comments.

5. Repeated name-calling.

A lot of forum posters get banned on the first two. I’m perfectly ok with this since I consider that to be the basis of Christianity and there is absolutely no point in discussing anything with someone who doesn’t believe these fundamental principles.

This is a conservative forum, both in politics and in religious beliefs. I know liberal theologians like to play loose with the first two I’ve numbered and if you tend that way, I’d go elsewhere.

Yeah, I suppose I walked a guy into a ban the other week, but it wasn't my intent.

He made the claim that only pagan gods demanded blood sacrifices, and I asked if he thought certain sections of Leviticus were inspired.

By the time I got back to the thread, he had already answered in the negative and had been banned.

 

[JonC]

All we can do is clearly present our view (whether it is a correct view or a mistaken view) and hope someone else either affirms it or provides evidence from scripture against it, and an alternate more biblical view.

If Scripture is less than infallible using it as evidence is a little foolish.

 

[JonC]

Yeah, I suppose I walked a guy into a ban the other week, but it wasn't my intent.

He made the claim that only pagan gods demanded blood sacrifices, and I asked if he thought certain sections of Leviticus were inspired.

By the time I got back to the thread, he had already answered in the negative and had been banned.

I guess each board has to draw lines in what is acceptable and what is not. It is not just about baptist distinctives (the BB has, for example, a stance on abortion).

I hated to see the member go, BTW. I enjoyed his posts and he and I shared a few concerns and views.

 

[FreeBaptist]

Yeah, I suppose I walked a guy into a ban the other week, but it wasn't my intent.

He made the claim that only pagan gods demanded blood sacrifices, and I asked if he thought certain sections of Leviticus were inspired.

By the time I got back to the thread, he had already answered in the negative and had been banned.

Wow! So much for soul liberty.

 

[FreeBaptist]

If Scripture is less than infallible using it as evidence is a little foolish.

I just don't see it that way. I don't have to have an infallible book to believe in an infallible God.

 

[FreeBaptist]

I guess each board has to draw lines in what is acceptable and what is not. It is not just about baptist distinctives (the BB has, for example, a stance on abortion).

I hated to see the member go, BTW. I enjoyed his posts and he and I shared a few concerns and views.

JonC, may I ask what denomination of Baptist you are?

 

[Reformed]

The doctrine of inerrancy teaches that the Bible is inerrant in the original autographs. Textual variants exist but there are no errors that impugn any doctrine. Ergo, the 66 books of the Bible we have today can rightly be called God's word. If the Bible is not inerrant it cannot be trusted. If the Bible cannot be trusted the entire foundation of our faith is called into question. While questioning inerrancy may be allowed on this board, do not expect many of us to allow that charge to escape unchallenged.

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[FreeBaptist]

The doctrine of inerrancy teaches that the Bible is inerrant in the original autographs. Textual variants exist but there are no errors that impugn any doctrine. Ergo, the 66 books of the Bible we have today can rightly be called God's word. If the Bible is not inerrant it cannot be trusted. If the Bible cannot be trusted the entire foundation of our faith is called into question. While questioning inerrancy may be allowed on this board, do not expect many of us to allow that charge to escape unchallenged.

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I don't see inerrancy that way.

I don't expect it to be unchallenged. I am a Baptist.

 

[Reformed]

I don't see inerrancy that way.

Then what do you base your faith on? If the Bible may contain errors that affect doctrine, how can you be sure of anything in regards to your faith?

 

[FreeBaptist]

Then what do you base your faith on? If the Bible may contain errors that affect doctrine, how can you be sure of anything in regards to your faith?

The '63 BF&M says something to the effect that the criteria on which the Bible is to be interpreted is Jesus Christ. I go along with that.

 

[Reformed]

The '63 BF&M says something to the effect that the criteria on which the Bible is to be interpreted is Jesus Christ. I go along with that.

So, you go along with a man-made document that says to trust in Jesus, and have no assurance that what you are believing in is true and not a result of error? Wow. I did not know that the S.B.C. was that...wait for it...inerrant.

 

[Reformed]

I am going to go out on a limb here and kind of guess why you asked about what it takes to get banned. I am a rather cynical person and I am starting to get the feeling that you enjoy pressing buttons that get a reaction.

 

[InTheLight]

I am going to go out on a limb here and kind of guess why you asked about what it takes to get banned. I am a rather cynical person and I am starting to get the feeling that you enjoy pressing buttons that get a reaction.

 

[Reformed]

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OK. I do not care who you are. That was funny right there.

 

[Gorship]

I am confuzzled

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
II Timothy 3:16‭-‬17 NKJV


If this is to be true we need an absolute scripture to learn from or God is setting us up for failure.

Now find me a passage for "vicar of Christ" theology and some fancy chair. I'll wait.

But maybe I'm just a simple dock builder from the sticks.

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[FreeBaptist]

So, you go along with a man-made document that says to trust in Jesus, and have no assurance that what you are believing in is true and not a result of error? Wow. I did not know that the S.B.C. was that...wait for it...inerrant.

That's a lot of twisting. Congrats.

 

[FreeBaptist]

I am going to go out on a limb here and kind of guess why you asked about what it takes to get banned. I am a rather cynical person and I am starting to get the feeling that you enjoy pressing buttons that get a reaction.

No, I am interested in beliefs and thinking deeply about them.

 

[JonC]

JonC, may I ask what denomination of Baptist you are?

SBC