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Mexdeaf

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I guess I should give my thoughts on this. I have used the KJV my entire life. When I was growing up, in the world I lived in, I never knew there even were other translations. Everyone I knew used and loved (and had no problem understanding) the KJV. It seems to me that in the last 25 years there are Bible "versions" coming out of the wood work. All of a sudden the KJV is "outdated", "hard to understand", "full of mistakes", "not the best translation", etc. I'm amazed at that. NO one made those kinds of comments 40 years ago. The KJV was honored, cherished, used, and loved by most every Christian. It has served the Christian community well for 400 years.
Now there are over 100 different Bible versions. Some using this text, some using that text. Some have certain passages in them, some leave those passages out. And yet, I'm told, and expected to believe, that ALL these different Bible versions are the Word of God. I'm just some average guy, but I've got enough common sense to know that that makes no sense. I've read KJV vs. MV forums for years now, and I've seen nothing that would convince me that the KJV is not the best translation I could have, and I'm sticking with it. You may use whatever translation you want, as I stated before. My men's Sunday School leader uses the NIV, and my pastor preaches from the NKJV. There are probably just as many in our congregation that use the NIV, ESV, NASB, etc. as those that use the KJV. IMHO, the KJV outshines them all.

No one would argue with the bolded part. The rest is conjecture and opinion which you are entitled to just as anyone else here is.
 

Rippon

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It seems to me that in the last 25 years there are Bible "versions" coming out of the wood work.

Hmm,that would have been 1986. And you didn't know about the NKJ,MLB,Phillips,Norlie,JB etc.? I find that hard to believe.


All of a sudden the KJV is "outdated", "hard to understand", "full of mistakes", "not the best translation", etc. I'm amazed at that. NO one made those kinds of comments 40 years ago.

I know history is not your strong suit but they have been voicing those complaints for centuries now --even back in the 17th.


I'm told, and expected to believe, that ALL these different Bible versions are the Word of God.

Yes. Do you doubt that the NIV,ESV,NASB etc. are indeed the Word of God?

My men's Sunday School leader uses the NIV, and my pastor preaches from the NKJV. There are probably just as many in our congregation that use the NIV, ESV, NASB, etc. as those that use the KJV. IMHO, the KJV outshines them all.

The KJV is your favorite. But it is no more the Word of God than the other versions you mentioned. Some would say that the NIV outshines them all. Others would claim that the ESV outshines them all. Still others would maintain that the NASB outclasses them all.
 
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Logos1560

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It seems to me that in the last 25 years there are Bible "versions" coming out of the wood work. All of a sudden the KJV is "outdated", "hard to understand", "full of mistakes", "not the best translation", etc. I'm amazed at that. NO one made those kinds of comments 40 years ago. .

You seem to be uninformed or misinformed. Perhaps you have never read many books that would relate to this matter from the 1600's, 1700's, 1800's, etc. I have read books written by Baptists and others that were printed in the 1600's that pointed out problems with the KJV such as Episcopal bias.

Noah Webster pointed out problems with some of the archaic words and grammar in the KJV back in 1833.
 

Baptist4life

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My first sentence contained the following words..................."I should give my thoughts on this."


That's what they were. I see no reason for the unkind responses.
 

Jim1999

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I am with you, Baptist for Life, the KJV was good enough when we fought the advance of liberalism back in the 40's-60's. I have nothing against any of the modern version, but I remain firm to my KJV, and simply compare them with my bible.

My personal bible is a 1945 Cambridge KJV, and I never even checked which year it was published. I know I have changed a lot of words and expressions, and when I read from it, I include those corrections. Far better than changing versions for reading and preaching.

Another version I enjoy reading is the Phillips NT in Modern English, even though Phillips, himself, was very liberal.

Cheers,

Jim
 

Rippon

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My first sentence contained the following words..................."I should give my thoughts on this."

Do you,or don't you believe that other versions of the Bible such as the NIV (which your Sunday School teacher uses) the ESV and NASB are the Word of God as much as the KJV is?

If you do believe they are also the Word of God --no problem. If you insist that they are not the Word of God or "It depends" -- big problem Buddy.
 

JesusFan

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Do you,or don't you believe that other versions of the Bible such as the NIV (which your Sunday School teacher uses) the ESV and NASB are the Word of God as much as the KJV is?

If you do believe they are also the Word of God --no problem. If you insist that they are not the Word of God or "It depends" -- big problem Buddy.

Depends if brother is really KJVO or not!
if he is, than ALL other English versions are seen as bogus, as we have the "only true and accurate Version!"

Hopefully, he will reply that he sees KJV as best version, rest are "adequate!"
 

stilllearning

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Hopefully, he will reply that he sees KJV as best version, the rest are "adequate!"

I think that this describes the way I feel......
ad-e-quate (àd¹î-kwît) adjective
1. Sufficient to satisfy a requirement or meet a need. See Synonyms at SUFFICIENT.
2. Barely satisfactory or sufficient.
 

JesusFan

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I think that this describes the way I feel......
ad-e-quate (àd¹î-kwît) adjective
1. Sufficient to satisfy a requirement or meet a need. See Synonyms at SUFFICIENT.
2. Barely satisfactory or sufficient.


IF you hold to that, than you are NOT part of the KJVO cult in Church that holds it as being "Only" version that God has for the Church!
 

Baptist4life

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Do you,or don't you believe that other versions of the Bible such as the NIV (which your Sunday School teacher uses) the ESV and NASB are the Word of God as much as the KJV is?

If you do believe they are also the Word of God --no problem. If you insist that they are not the Word of God or "It depends" -- big problem Buddy.

I think the KJV is the best translation. I much prefer it. However, I believe that those other versions may be used by anyone who wants to. I don't condemn them or try to change their minds. Nor do I think they are any less Christian. Are they the Word of God? Of course, just IMHO, not as good as the KJV.
 
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JesusFan

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I think the KJV is the best translation. I much prefer it. However, I believe that those other versions may be used by anyone who wants to. I don't condemn them or try to change their minds. Nor do I think they are any less Christian. Are they the Word of God? Of course, just IMHO, not as good as the KJV.

red letter day here on the BB!
2 have "converted" out of the KJVO Church, and now allow for rest of us to use "inferior" Bible versions!
 

NaasPreacher (C4K)

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I think the KJV is the best translation. I much prefer it. However, I believe that those other versions may be used by anyone who wants to. I don't condemn them or try to change their minds. Nor do I think they are any less Christian. Are they the Word of God? Of course, just IMHO, not as good as the KJV.

To be fair, this is no change for this poster.
 

stilllearning

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I can see the game you are playing, but we are talking about Satan’s attack upon God’s Word.

You can play games if you want, but I am serious.
 
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