In Defense of Social Justice

[church mouse guy]

Forced conversions and a tax rate of 100% on everyone would be unjust. However, a four-fold penalty on thieves, assessed on the value of property they've stolen, is Biblical. Additionally, I see nothing unjust about progressive income tax, where the wealthy would be required to pay 90% tax on all income over $10,000,000 per year.

Oh, fair is fair in communism--everybody should pay at least 90% in communism. Young people should pay even more.

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

Oh, fair is fair in communism--everybody should pay at least 90% in communism.

Yes, idolizing greed would be very rare in the best of all governments founded on Christian principles. And society would be even better off than when the tax rate was 90% in the U.S. for the highest income tax brackets. But there's no need to worry. The Spirit of religious liberty and freedom of conscience would allow those seduced by the first demon's message to continue to believe that Ayn Rand is the creator of a new code of morality that is vastly superior to the moral code of Jesus Christ.

 

[OnlyaSinner]

And the communists in the New Testament were Christians.

Acts 2:44-47
And all who believed were together and had all things in common. And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need. And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts, praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to their number day by day those who were being saved.

What of it?

Those verses are a description of a practice for that time and place, not a prescription for every Christian or every church. Christian giving is presented more fully in 1 Cor 16 and 2 Cor 8 and 9. This is not meant to say that the practices described in Acts 2 are always wrong for today, just that I find nothing in scripture stating that they are mandatory. We are to give as God has prospered us, give honestly (unlike Ananias/Sapphira), and cheerfully. (That Greek word might be more accurately translated as "hilariously" - done with a very joyful attitude, more than mere willingness.)

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

And the communists in the New Testament were Christians. ... What of it?

The earliest NT Christians were voluntarily practicing this sharing and fellowship among themselves. It was strictly, totally voluntary and had nothing to do with the secular or even Jewish government at any level.

Forced conversions and a tax rate of 100% on everyone would be unjust. However, a four-fold penalty on thieves, assessed on the value of property they've stolen, is Biblical. Additionally, I see nothing unjust about progressive income tax, where the wealthy would be required to pay 90% tax on all income over $10,000,000 per year.

Exactly—there is no legitimate biblical defense for what you did. You accused another of red-baiting, then turned left around and did your own form (I don’t know the “technical” term for your latest eisegetical attack—reverse red-baiting? red-bait and switch?) against the infant church, twisting Scripture in the process. That’s the sort of thing that really deserves a “Shame on you.” Looks like you’ve been caught red-handed, even if you don’t outright admit it.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Those verses are a description of a practice for that time and place, not a prescription for every Christian or every church. Christian giving is presented more fully in 1 Cor 16 and 2 Cor 8 and 9. This is not meant to say that the practices described in Acts 2 are always wrong for today, just that I find nothing in scripture stating that they are mandatory. We are to give as God has prospered us, give honestly (unlike Ananias/Sapphira), and cheerfully. (That Greek word might be more accurately translated as "hilariously" - done with a very joyful attitude, more than mere willingness.)

You are quite right, but he is not even applying it to Christians, rather to secular politics.

 

[church mouse guy]

Yes, idolizing greed would be very rare in the best of all governments founded on Christian principles. And society would be even better off than when the tax rate was 90% in the U.S. for the highest income tax brackets. But there's no need to worry. The Spirit of religious liberty and freedom of conscience would allow those seduced by the first demon's message to continue to believe that Ayn Rand is the creator of a new code of morality that is vastly superior to the moral code of Jesus Christ.

Do you think that it is right for people to be married in a communist paradise like Jim Jones had? Do you think it would be right for you to have a picture of AOC in your pocket?

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

Do you think it would be right for you to have a picture of AOC in your pocket?

No. That would be very wrong. Tulsi Gabbard is the most enlightened progressive in government and I'm very satisfied with just exalting God's truth and in praying that Tulsi will awaken many like yourself that have been slaphappily seduced by the Babylonian Empire. And no, I don't carry Tulsi's picture in my pocket since she's a married woman. Nevertheless, Tulsi already has my vote.

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

You accused another of red-baiting,

Post #33, #35 and #76 are undeniable instances of red-baiting, which is pretty silly since I've already openly and freely confessed to being a Christian Communalist.

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

Do you think that it is right for people to be married in a communist paradise like Jim Jones had?

I believe in God, in free speech, and the freedom of religion. I see marriage as a religious ceremony and believe in the separation of Church and State.

 

[church mouse guy]

I believe in God, in free speech, and the freedom of religion. I see marriage as a religious ceremony and believe in the separation of Church and State.

I think that you must be the leader since you want so much private property for yourself.

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

I think that you must be the leader since you want so much private property for yourself.

Seventh-day Millerites recognize God as their leader. We have no popes or cardinals.

 

[church mouse guy]

Seventh-day Millerites recognize God as their leader. We have no popes or cardinals.

Who's the boss who tells everyone what to do? Don't be so hard on Pope Francis because he's a Christian communist just like you. I can't believe that you don't like AOC--have you seen her dance?

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

Who's the boss who tells everyone what to do?

That would be God for Seventh-day Millerites. For you, a shill for our shadow government, it's someone else.

Don't be so hard on Pope Francis because he's a Christian communist just like you.

Do you understand what the pope truly symbolizes? Let's just agree that Pope Francis is as much of a Christian as you are.

I can't believe that you don't like AOC

I most certainly like AOC to an extraordinary degree. And I imagine that Tulsi Gabbard likes her also.

 

[church mouse guy]

That would be God for Seventh-day Millerites. For you, a shill for our shadow government, it's someone else.


Do you understand what the pope truly symbolizes? Let's just agree that Pope Francis is as much of a Christian as you are.


I most certainly like AOC to an extraordinary degree. And I imagine that Tulsi Gabbard likes her also.

You commies are not supposed to make remarks about people's Christianity. I don't go on your message board and say things about you. Don't you think that you are a little too much bourgeoisie when you express hatred for non-communists? Why are you fighting with other communists? Do you think Jim Jones did that? AOC is the American communist leader. Have you thought about moving to Mexico where they have a communist president? What kind of communist has a computer?

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

You commies are not supposed to make remarks about people's Christianity.

Ah! thou foul and filthy stranger!
What canst thou be after here?
Thou wilt find thyself in danger,
If thou dost not disappear.
Vanish quick, I do advise you!
For we mean to let you know.
Good Believers do despise you,
As a dangerous, deadly foe.

Dare you, in the sight of heaven,
Show your foul and filthy pranks?
Can a place to you be given
In the bright angelic ranks?
Go! I say, thou unclean devil!
Go from this delightful place.
Thou art just a foolish rebel,
Thou art just a terrible disgrace.
Because you contribute to the mire,
There will be nothing left of you to trace.
After you are consumed in fire,
You shall terminate in null space.

 

[church mouse guy]

Ah! thou foul and filthy stranger!
What canst thou be after here?
Thou wilt find thyself in danger,
If thou dost not disappear.
Vanish quick, I do advise you!
For we mean to let you know.
Good Believers do despise you,
As a dangerous, deadly foe.

Dare you, in the sight of heaven,
Show your foul and filthy pranks?
Can a place to you be given
In the bright angelic ranks?
Go! I say, thou unclean devil!
Go from this delightful place.
Thou art just a foolish rebel,
Thou art just a terrible disgrace.
Because you contribute to the mire,
There will be nothing left of you to trace.
After you are consumed in fire,
You shall terminate in null space.

What terrible poetry the commies have!

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

Let's get back to the topic at hand, which is social justice.

In the passage cited, Christ is instructing His Church about our responsibility to the victims of robbers. Priests and Levites, the text implies, do not concern themselves with those that are nearly killed by robbers and the videos elaborate on that further. Apparently, there has been a war going on against Venezuela for several years now and the instigators of that war are virtually confessing that their objective is robbery. So my application of the passage from Luke is valid. Furthermore, I freely confess that I identify with the despised class of believers in Christ's lesson, the Samaritans.

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

Max Blumenthal debunks corporate media lies about Venezuela at United Nations

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

'The mask of the US is off': At UN, Anya Parampil speaks on Venezuela regime change war

 

[Squire Robertsson]

As Zog has earned himself a 6-month vacation for post 115 Questioning the Salvation of other members. This thread is closed.