Don't bother listing the geneologies --you're wasting your time.
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You either believe, or you remain in unbelief.
God already listed the geneologies, and gave us the time span in years.
If you can then say that you don't agree with the time span, then you may just not agree with the Creator.
Based on Bishop Ussher's dating principles the earth is 6,240 years of age. But he didn't make any edicts as you have.
humblethinker
Active Member
How are you able to NOT believe in geocentrism, flat earth or slavery? There is plenty of scripture and Christian tradition to support it. If you don't then you "may just not agree with the Creator."
Gen 5:9
9 And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan:
235 + 90 = 325 fb
Gen 5:12
12 And Cainan lived seventy years, and begat Mahalaleel:
395 fb
Gen 5:15
15 And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared:
460 fb
Gen 5:18
18 And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:
622 fb
Gen 5:21
21 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
787 fb
Gen 5:25
25 And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech:
974 fb
Gen 5:28
28 And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:
1,156 fb NOAH! WOOHOO!
9 And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan:
235 + 90 = 325 fb
Gen 5:12
12 And Cainan lived seventy years, and begat Mahalaleel:
395 fb
Gen 5:15
15 And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared:
460 fb
Gen 5:18
18 And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:
622 fb
Gen 5:21
21 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
787 fb
Gen 5:25
25 And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech:
974 fb
Gen 5:28
28 And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:
1,156 fb NOAH! WOOHOO!
Uhhggg. No have those in cave.
saturneptune
New Member
You have made several posts and not answered the question. How old do you think the earth is? If you are going to mock someone's numbers, you must have a better one.
1,156 Noah
Gen 5:32
32 And Noah was five hundred years old:and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
1,656 fb
Gen 7:6
6 And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth.
1,756 fb Great Flood
You either believe in the Flood, or you remain in unbelief.
Gen 5:32
32 And Noah was five hundred years old:and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
1,656 fb
Gen 7:6
6 And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth.
1,756 fb Great Flood
You either believe in the Flood, or you remain in unbelief.
You didn't make any reply to my posts #16 and #24.
saturneptune
New Member
That is because no question was asked. How old do you think the earth is? Who created the earth?
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Genesis
Chapter 1
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:5
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Gen 2:4
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.
Gen 1:27-31
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
...
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
6 days fb
you either believe, or remain in unbelief.
Genesis
Chapter 1
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:5
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Gen 2:4
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.
Gen 1:27-31
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
...
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
6 days fb
you either believe, or remain in unbelief.
quantumfaith
Active Member
Wow, much closer horse race than I suspected it would be.
When there is a question mark it's a clue for you that a question is being asked. So please answer my post 16 question. In post #24 you can easily turn it into a question with your ever nimble-like mind.
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saturneptune
New Member
Well, Mr. Rippon, I would like to continue your highly intellectual, Christ-like discourse, but some of us have to work. But never fear, see you at the same Baptist time (in your case, Chinese daylight savings time) and same Baptist channel this evening.
Humblethinker--in regards to your 1st post--Very good recommendation, even when I disagree with Walton's theology, I can appreciate his insight into ANE culture. He is a must read for anyone undergoing an in-depth study of the book of Genesis!
In 1644, Lightfoot published his calculations relating to the date of the earth. ... in his great work, Dr. John Lightfoot, Vice-Chancellor of the University of Cambridge, and one of the most eminent Hebrew scholars of his time, declared, as the result of his most profound and exhaustive study of the Scriptures, that 'heaven and earth, centre and circumference, were created all together, in the same instance, and clouds full of water,” and that, “this work took place and man was created by the Trinity on the twenty-third of October, 4004, B.C., at nine o’clock in the morning.”
He was unwilling to commit himself to any more exact estimation.
Rob
Well, there are two questions being asked:
Did God create the earth in 6-24 hour days?
and
Do you believe in a young earth?
So, I had to pick "not sure". :smilewinkgrin:
Your poll and the question in the OP do not cover the same thing.
It is quite possible to believe in a literal 6 days of creation and still believe the Earth is FAR older than the 6000 years of Bishop Ussher's adding the ages of the genealogies found in the Table of Nations.
It is obvious from even a superficial reading that the chronologies are not closed. The term "begat" (as translated in the older versions) does not necessarily mean "became the father of." It can also mean "became the ancestor of" and can refer to a father, grandfather, of distant progenitor.
Therefore Creation could have been in 6 literal days, but the distance between the fall and the flood is more than just the short time Ussher allows, and the time between the flood and the tower of babel more than Ussher allows, and the time between the tower and Abraham is more than the short time Ussher allows.
