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In What Sense Does The Spirit Enlighten All Mankind

Van

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Dont you realize a natural man isnt spiritual at all ? A carnal acting believer is Spiritual, because he has the Spirit in him. Paul told the carnal believers of 1 Cor 3 this in Chapter 6 1 Cor 6:19

19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

Now explain how a unspiritual natural man understands spiritual food as milk ? Its still spiritual. Can you feed a gold fish milk from the breast of a women ? No, dont have the nature for the milk duh
On and on, addressing my comprehension, and running from scripture.
Address the carnally acting believer, and not the men of flesh. Obfuscation on display.

Everyone should comprehend Paul spoke as to "men of flesh" using spiritual milk. To deny this is an agenda driven effort to nullify scripture.

Men of flesh, many of them, seek the spiritual milk of the narrow door.

Why is this truth not addresses? :)
 

Brightfame52

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On and on, addressing my comprehension, and running from scripture.
Address the carnally acting believer, and not the men of flesh. Obfuscation on display.

Everyone should comprehend Paul spoke as to "men of flesh" using spiritual milk. To deny this is an agenda driven effort to nullify scripture.

Men of flesh, many of them, seek the spiritual milk of the narrow door.

Why is this truth not addresses? :)
You want a spiritually dead sinner in the flesh, to understand spiritually things a spiritually alive person does understand spiritually The natural man cannot know/understand the things of the Spirit of God 1 Cor 2:14 Milk is of the Spirit of God, its scripture truth produced by the Spirit of God
 

Van

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You want a spiritually dead sinner in the flesh, to understand spiritually things a spiritually alive person does understand spiritually The natural man cannot know/understand the things of the Spirit of God 1 Cor 2:14 Milk is of the Spirit of God, its scripture truth produced by the Spirit of God
I want you to address why Paul spoke to new Christians in the same way he spoke to men of flesh. This seems too much to ask.

Many spiritually dead sinners seek the spiritual milk narrow door, clearly teaching what you clearly deny.

God said salvation does not depend on the person who wills, clearly teaching what you deny.

People are led to Christ by God's word, clearly teaching what you deny.

The rich young ruler was seeking eternal life, clearly teaching what you deny.

Soils 2 and 3 of Matthew 13 were seeking God, yet were not saved, clearly teaching what you deny.

The Baptist distinctive of "Soul Liberty" clearly teaches what you deny.

But there is a kind of people who are unable to grasp spiritual milk, perhaps some of them will agree with you....
 

Brightfame52

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I want you to address why Paul spoke to new Christians in the same way he spoke to men of flesh. This seems too much to ask.

Many spiritually dead sinners seek the spiritual milk narrow door, clearly teaching what you clearly deny.

God said salvation does not depend on the person who wills, clearly teaching what you deny.

People are led to Christ by God's word, clearly teaching what you deny.

The rich young ruler was seeking eternal life, clearly teaching what you deny.

Soils 2 and 3 of Matthew 13 were seeking God, yet were not saved, clearly teaching what you deny.

The Baptist distinctive of "Soul Liberty" clearly teaches what you deny.

But there is a kind of people who are unable to grasp spiritual milk, perhaps some of them will agree with you....
All this is fantasy, How can a spiritually dead person, desire and seek after spiritual food/milk ? None by nature seek God Rom 3:11

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
 

Van

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All this is fantasy, How can a spiritually dead person, desire and seek after spiritual food/milk ? None by nature seek God Rom 3:11

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
On and on, this poster posts non-germane nonsense. The many seeking the narrow door is now falsely claimed to not be seeking after God. I kid you not.
 
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Van

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For the umpteenth time, "none that seeks after God" does NOT mean "none that ever seeks after God." When people are sinning they are not seeking after God, thus none seek after God all the time or when sinning is the contextual scope of the phrase.

Paul, under inspiration, repurposed this statement from the OT, to support the truth that we all under sin.
 

Brightfame52

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On and on, this poster posts non-germane nonsense. The many seeking the narrow door is now falsely claimed to not be seeking after God. I kid you not.
You want to feed a gold fish dog food. Does a gold fish desire the milk of a dog ? Or do you have to be her pup first ?

The milk of the word is to the new born babe, look at the context here. 1 Pet 2:2

2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

He is writing to them who had been born again and heard the Gospel preached to them 1 Pet 1:23-2:1

23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:

25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

2 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,

They were first born again of incorruptible seed, the Logos of God, then the Gospel rehema was preached to them as born again, and its as new born believers they have a desire for the milk of the word.

This has nothing to do with the natural man who cant know the things of the Spirit of God, heck he dont even desire them, because HE IS NOT Spiritual !
 

Van

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For the umpteenth time, "none that seeks after God" does NOT mean "none that ever seeks after God." When people are sinning they are not seeking after God, thus none seek after God all the time or when sinning is the contextual scope of the phrase.

Paul, under inspiration, repurposed this statement from the OT, to support the truth that we all under sin.
The context is Paul spoke to new Christians the same way he spoke to men of flesh using spiritual milk.
 

Brightfame52

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The context is Paul spoke to new Christians the same way he spoke to men of flesh using spiritual milk.
It does mean none ever seeks after God while under sin. Now if you talking about a saved person, yeah they seek after God, but Rom 3:11 is about a lost person
 

Van

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It does mean none ever seeks after God while under sin. Now if you talking about a saved person, yeah they seek after God, but Rom 3:11 is about a lost person
Yet another falsehood, the claim that the many seeking but not finding the narrow door were saved.

Folks, stack up the false claims, at some point they will collapse like a house of cards.

Those seeking the narrow door were not seeking God.

The narrow door is not a spiritual thing.

Those seeking the narrow door were already saved.

I could go on but you should get the idea...
 
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