Silverhair
Well-Known Member
Are you reading my posts? I did not say anything except I quoted the verse and showed readers the word in Eph.2 means corpse. You posted no scripture that says the word used was not Nekros=corpse, so try again. It is you who are not dealing with Nekros it seems.
False again, I did noy insert any philosophy, but rather posted on this scripture, I did not make any of my own comment, but if you have no real answer, we can let the readers determine what is what.
Where does it say that natural men apart from the Spirit of God receive it?
I did not mention any teaching other than what the text says. Are you sure you are not just making excuses and trying to skip away from Nekros?
Yes, spiritual corpses
1 tim5:6 Paul says they do
3 Honour widows that are widows indeed.
4 But if any widow have children or nephews, let them learn first to shew piety at home, and to requite their parents: for that is good and acceptable before God.
5 Now she that is a widow indeed, and desolate, trusteth in God, and continueth in supplications and prayers night and day.
6 But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth.
I did not quote from any C/R source, just scripture dealing with Nekros. Are you sure you are not hiding behind these false issues you suggest?
That is what I am doing. you seem to be avoiding these texts however!
Yes, He died Spiritually that day, with Physical death to follow...sure did.
Physically alive, mentally alert, and spiritually dead
Sorry, that is a slanderous accusation, when I have offered verses. Why do you go to such dark thoughts?
yes, I agree with this, but it does not tie in the how, just the result. The Spirit is how!
I believe they happen at the exact same point in time, instantly
I have not looked at either of those men on this. Another excuse by you?
No..I find that all faithful ones are word centered to the max.
Scripture says we have self will. I posted that earlier. You can ignore it if you want to, the readers will see what you are doing,lol
Where do you see such a fatalistic idea in scripture. God knows our thoughts, but He does not put them there, we do! will you try every loophole under the Sun, trying to resist the truth?
This has been addressed in full. No need to repeat it, as evidently you were unable or unwilling to perceive it.
it is already done...how many examples do you need? I said it meant a corpse, and posted the meaning...
I am not sure what you mean by that, You cannot defend your assertion.
Take a poll, I think others have seen what has happened here!
Another excuse and attempted evasion. I get it. You cannot answer to these verses, so you try an attack, that has failed.
It has clearly been proven to any who look objectively.
Well I see what your problem is you do not have the ability to read a verse and understand what it means.
dead G3498
metaph.
a. spiritually dead
1. destitute of a life that recognises and is devoted to God, because given up to trespasses and sins
2. inactive as respects doing right
Eph 2:1 And G2532 you G5209 He made alive, who were G5607 (G5752) dead G3498 in trespasses G3900 and G2532 sins G266 ,
Eph 2:2 in G1722 which G3739 you once G4218 walked G4043 (G5656) according to G2596 the course G165 of this G5127 world G2889, according to G2596 the prince G758 of the power G1849 of the air G109, the spirit G4151 who now G3568 works G1754 (G5723) in G1722 the sons G5207 of disobedience G543,
Have you done anything to prove your religion is biblical, NO. You have not provided any biblical support for your C/R views.
You do remind me of many of the C/R's on this and other boards. You will not actually step up and support the philosophy you claim to be biblical.
If and when you choose to do so then let me know and we can discuss what you say.