Not at all ashamed, brother vooks, but instead we uphold it as a lit candle in a dark place, and an identifying badge of light as of belonging specifically to Christ Jesus. Please consider::
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http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2217885&postcount=32
More material can be found in the following -
http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=99751
Then, you stated:Brother vooks, you had asked specifically:And this was answered as asked:
http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2226933&postcount=80
Therefore, your question, as asked, was answered specifically, and given Scripture [persons of the distant past [from Genesis in fact]] and also in modernity [recent past until now]. The amount of believing persons is not relevant to any Scriptural doctrine, nor is the amount of historical record beyond that of Scripture. Any historical source, is always secondary to the foundation, Scripture, on any and all matters.
For instance, I do not believe Michael Archangel [The Son of the Father, Eternal Deity, God, Uncreated Creator, I AM, YHVH Emmanuel, etc] to be 'Jesus', simply because historically Martin Luther, Philip Melanchthon & hundreds of other powerful reformers, taught it &c, including Presbyterians, Baptists, Anglicans, Methodists, Lutherans, Millerites, Adventists and also Seventh-day Adventists, etc, etc, but I believe it based upon the Scriptural texts themselves alone through prayerful study apart from all the rest, and even before coming to find all the rest in history. As to the latter point, the mere fact that no documentation can be found in the periods of 150 AD - 1400ish AD on that subject [Michael Archangel, at least that I could immediately find, there may be just haven't yet found it] is by no means an indication that it was not so taught or believed by the Church in the wilderness [Revelation 12] period. There was a great deal lost, historically, by persecution, proscription, etc.
I do notice, yet once again, brother vooks, that my question in return was not directly addressed, in any place, like so many others already asked you [and all] as noted above and elsewhere, and not only on this subject, but on many others.
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Brother vooks, by latching onto the words in ministry magazine [which is not any source of foundation for me, or any true Seventh-day Adventist, but Scripture is the Foundation [even as seen in the article itself: "... The writings of Ellen White also contain much material dealing with Christ in the heavenly sanctuary (e.g., The Great Controversy, pp. 409-432, 479-491, 582- 678). ...
These writings, however, were not the source of our pioneers' doctrine of the sanctuary, rather, they confirmed and supplemented the ideas that the early Adventists were finding in the Bible itself. Today we recognize the same relationship: the writings of Ellen White provide confirmation of our doctrine of Christ in the heavenly sanctuary and supplement our understanding of it. ...
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Our pioneers found it by diligent searching of the Word and became motivated by it. ..."]] and emphasizing them,
"this new doctrine", without understanding what they mean Scripturally, simply belies the lack of Scriptural knowledge of specific texts upon your part brother vooks, but not ours. It was there the whole time:
And they were all amazed, insomuch that they questioned among themselves, saying, What thing is this? what new doctrine [is] this? for with authority commandeth he even the unclean spirits, and they do obey him. - Mark 1:27
And they took him, and brought him unto Areopagus, saying, May we know what this new doctrine, whereof thou speakest, [is]? - Acts 17:19
No man putteth a piece of new cloth unto an old garment, for that which is put in to fill it up taketh from the garment, and the rent is made worse. - Matthew 9:16
Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved. - Matthew 9:17
Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe [which is] instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man [that is] an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure [things] new and old. - Matthew 13:52
No man also seweth a piece of new cloth on an old garment: else the new piece that filled it up taketh away from the old, and the rent is made worse. - Mark 2:21
And no man putteth new wine into old bottles: else the new wine doth burst the bottles, and the wine is spilled, and the bottles will be marred: but new wine must be put into new bottles. - Mark 2:22
And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a new garment upon an old; if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was [taken] out of the new agreeth not with the old. - Luke 5:36
And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish. - Luke 5:37
But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved. - Luke 5:38
No man also having drunk old [wine] straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better. - Luke 5:39
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. - John 13:34
Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning. - 1 John 2:7
Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. - 1 John 2:8
And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another. - 2 John 1:5
