Is Charlie Kirk a martyr?

[5 point Gillinist]

In this video Al Mohler answers a question from an individual who asks if Kirk was a martyr.

I am of the opinion that, no, Kirk was not a martyr in the classical sense. He was not martyred for proclaiming the gospel, nor for refusing to recant Christianity, nor directly targeted for murder being as he was a Christian. I think it is important to note also that the devil actively works against Christians in various ways to torment them for being in the kingdom: trouble at work, home, etc. But not necessarily all are targeted by Satan's instruments specifically by them for their Christianity. I wouldn't put Kirk in the same category as those in the colosseum of Rome, or those who died at the hands of Catholics during the reformation.

What are other people's thoughts?

As a side, I think it is important to note that while Kirk had a Christian worldview, it did appear that there were some degrees of separation between the two. He told Dave Rubin (a homosexual conservative) that he thought it was great that he adopted and that people like him should be able to do so. He also platformed gay conservatives. None of which are conservative, or Christian.

 

[JonC]

I am not sure. Kirk engaged the world, both with politics and sharing the gospel.

I guess it would depend on the reason the shooter killed him. Was it for his stand in Christ or was it political.

If it was for his conservative politics then I would agree with you, but if for his faith I'd disagree. To make it more difficult, the issues blend (Kirk opposed transgender agendas and homosexuality on Christian grounds, but these are also political issues, and he addressed them as political issues as well).

I suppose we could look at the powers behind the assassination and conclude Kirk is a martyr.

It would be easier to decide if politics and Christianity had not been combined.

I agree with Kirks comments about homosexuality if he was speaking in a political context (politics is secular). But if from a Christian perspective I would disagree.

 

[5 point Gillinist]

I am not sure. Kirk engaged the world, both with politics and sharing the gospel.

I guess it would depend on the reason the shooter killed him. Was it for his stand in Christ or was it political.

If it was for his conservative politics then I would agree with you, but if for his faith I'd disagree. To make it more difficult, the issues blend (Kirk opposed transgender agendas and homosexuality on Christian grounds, but these are also political issues, and he addressed them as political issues as well).

I suppose we could look at the powers behind the assassination and conclude Kirk is a martyr.

It would be easier to decide if politics and Christianity had not been combined.

I agree with Kirks comments about homosexuality if he was speaking in a political context (politics is secular). But if from a Christian perspective I would disagree.

It seems to me if you'd ask most people they would say that he is a political activist. The problem is with political activists most conservatives make a profession of faith of some sort - granted Kirk's was far more bold and solid than others - but this doesn't make them a primarily Christian activist. Joel Webbon (a detestable man who drags the name of Christ through the mud) is a "pastor"/political activist, he's also a theonomist (which Kirk was not), but if he were assassinated most people would say he is a martyr due to his (supposed) Christianity.

I would offer pushback on your last point. We are to do all things unto Christ, and to not partner with darkness. This means my job is to be done with Christ in mind, my household run with Christ in mind, and even my political views/activism with Christ in mind.

All that to say, though Kirk shared the gospel, I find him to be primarily a political activist whose Christianity was inconsistently woven into his politics. Ultimately the hatred he suffered from others was demonic at the root, but I don't think I'd rank his death with martyrdom.

 

[Reynolds]

Yes. He was a martyr.

 

[5 point Gillinist]

Yes. He was a martyr.

Why do you believe him to be a martyr?

 

[Reynolds]

Why do you believe him to be a martyr?

He was killed for spreading the truth of The Word of God.

 

[5 point Gillinist]

He was killed for spreading the truth of The Word of God.

But was he preaching the gospel that day? He was seemingly doing one of his "prove me wrong" campus debates. As I said before he was a Christian, yet his politics were pretty heavily secular conservatism. I haven't watched Kirk, I didn't particularly care to follow him after several things he said, and allies he kept, but I could be wrong on his college open air debates. I would say Kirk's murderer's motives are murky due to Charlie Kirk's platform/activities, whereas if Ray Comfort were murdered, I would certainly conclude that he was a martyr.

 

[Reynolds]

But was he preaching the gospel that day? He was seemingly doing one of his "prove me wrong" campus debates. As I said before he was a Christian, yet his politics were pretty heavily secular conservatism. I haven't watched Kirk, I didn't particularly care to follow him after several things he said, and allies he kept, but I could be wrong on his college open air debates. I would say Kirk's murderer's motives are murky due to Charlie Kirk's platform/activities, whereas if Ray Comfort were murdered, I would certainly conclude that he was a martyr.

You need to go back and watch Kirk. The basis of his politics was his religion. He often engaged in pure Scriptural apologetics at these gatherings.

 

[5 point Gillinist]

You need to go back and watch Kirk. The basis of his politics was his religion. He often engaged in pure Scriptural apologetics at these gatherings.

That's good news then. I'll have to check that out. Do you have any specific videos I should watch.

 

[Reynolds]

That's good news then. I'll have to check that out. Do you have any specific videos I should watch.

No. I watched Charlie every night (recorded that day) and have seen it consistently for years.

 

[Cathode]

Charlie Kirk was a Martyr.

 

[kyredneck]

That's good news then. I'll have to check that out. Do you have any specific videos I should watch.

Go to YouTube.

 

[kyredneck]

That's good news then. I'll have to check that out. Do you have any specific videos I should watch.

https://x.com/its_The_Dr/status/1967091946528096334

"Charlie Kirk, even before they were taking shots at Trump could see the escalation of Rhetoric and Charlie never Wavered. Charlie went into the lions den to educate those that were subject to misinformation and Propaganda and he did so by opening their minds. Everyone should watch!"

Clip: 2:56

 

[JonC]

It seems to me if you'd ask most people they would say that he is a political activist. The problem is with political activists most conservatives make a profession of faith of some sort - granted Kirk's was far more bold and solid than others - but this doesn't make them a primarily Christian activist. Joel Webbon (a detestable man who drags the name of Christ through the mud) is a "pastor"/political activist, he's also a theonomist (which Kirk was not), but if he were assassinated most people would say he is a martyr due to his (supposed) Christianity.

I would offer pushback on your last point. We are to do all things unto Christ, and to not partner with darkness. This means my job is to be done with Christ in mind, my household run with Christ in mind, and even my political views/activism with Christ in mind.

All that to say, though Kirk shared the gospel, I find him to be primarily a political activist whose Christianity was inconsistently woven into his politics. Ultimately the hatred he suffered from others was demonic at the root, but I don't think I'd rank his death with martyrdom.

He was both an evangelistic and a political activist, but I think people's take depends on what they watched. If they watched him speak about Christianity, give his testimony, snd share the gospel they would probably view him as a martyr. But if they watched him defend conservatism then they would view him as a political advocate.

I have never seen him speak where he did not do both. But to be fair, I have only seen him address what others brought up (whether politics or religion).

Bottom line is it depends on why he was killed. Was it for speaking about Christ, Christianity and Christian positions? Was it for soeaking about conservative politics?

I can't say. It appears it had something to fo with his stance that the transgender agendas is wrong. That coukd go either way.

 

[Cathode]

He was both an evangelistic and a political activist, but I think people's take depends on what they watched. If they watched him speak about Christianity, give his testimony, snd share the gospel they would probably view him as a martyr. But if they watched him defend conservatism then they would view him as a political advocate.

I have never seen him speak where he did not do both. But to be fair, I have only seen him address what others brought up (whether politics or religion).

Bottom line is it depends on why he was killed. Was it for speaking about Christ, Christianity and Christian positions? Was it for soeaking about conservative politics?

I can't say. It appears it had something to fo with his stance that the transgender agendas is wrong. That coukd go either way.

Charlie Kirk was a conservative Christian, he was hated on both counts. The killer said in his online messages that he “hated everything Charlie Kirk stood for” according to the FBIs director Kash Patel.

Charlie Kirk died as much for his Christianity as anything else he represented.

Charlie Kirk is a Martyr.

 

[Guvnuh]

Charlie Kirk died as much for his Christianity as anything else he represented.

Yes he did.

 

[kyredneck]

https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1967947208193343545

The ‘Armed Queers of Salt Lake City’ is a marxist paramilitary group being investigated by federal authorities in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s left-wing political assassination.

This radical group immediately deleted their social media in the aftermath of Charlie’s murder. However, all data was captured by investigators and it’s very concerning.

A federal law enforcement source told me directly that the group “Deserves classification as a domestic terrorist organization”

The logo of ‘Armed Queers’ features the same caliber bullet that struck Charlie engraved with leftist messaging, just as Charlie’s was.

In a now deleted video, the leaders of the Armed Queers of Salt Lake City brag about a trip to communist Cuba in May of 2025 where they trained with militant marxists to stage a “revolution in America” when they returned home. The Marxist leaders they met with bragged about being labeled “terrorists” by the United States. The leaders of ‘Armed Queers’ refer to America as the “Belly of the Beast” in the video. The group has openly coordinated with the Cuban government in various venues and events.

Meet the leader of the Armed Queers of Salt Lake Ciry; Ermiya Fanaeian. She is an Iranian immigrant and self-identified communist who has been honored by the US State Department, United Nations and his ties to NGO Utah Global Diplomacy.

Utah Global Diplomacy has wiped all of her mentions on their pages. Authorities are now looking into Armed Queers SLC’s ties to Charlie Kirk’s assassination. This story is developing. It is important to begin investigations into the global, militant left-wing radicalization networks that seek to destroy western civilization.

The ‘Armed Queers of Salt Lake City’ is a marxist paramilitary group being investigated by federal authorities in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s left-wing political assassination. This radical group immediately deleted their social media in the aftermath of Charlie’s murder. However, all data was captured by investigators and it’s very concerning. A federal law enforcement source told me directly that the group “Deserves classification as a domestic terrorist organization” The logo of ‘Armed Queers’ features the same caliber bullet that struck Charlie engraved with leftist messaging, just as Charlie’s was. In a now deleted video, the leaders of the Armed Queers of Salt Lake City brag about a trip to communist Cuba in May of 2025 where they trained with militant marxists to stage a “revolution in America” when they returned home. The Marxist leaders they met with bragged about being labeled “terrorists” by the United States. The leaders of ‘Armed Queers’ refer to America as the “Belly of the Beast” in the video. The group has openly coordinated with the Cuban government in various venues and events. Meet the leader of the Armed Queers of Salt Lake Ciry; Ermiya Fanaeian. She is an Iranian immigrant and self-identified communist who has been honored by the US State Department, United Nations and his ties to NGO Utah Global Diplomacy. Utah Global Diplomacy has wiped all of her mentions on their pages. Authorities are now looking into Armed Queers SLC’s ties to Charlie Kirk’s assassination. This story is developing. It is important to begin investigations into the global, militant left-wing radicalization networks that seek to destroy western civilization.

Excellent information from @DataRepublican and her team.

If you have more information please contact the FBI at http://TIPS.FBI.gov

 

[Cathode]

There should be a ban on all Marxist woke propaganda taught in schools and universities. Hungarians banned it because they recognised how dangerous it is for a nation.
The international leftist organisations have been fomenting ideological subversion and instability deliberately to weaken America, now it is bearing its fruit.
If America is busy fighting its own internal ideological war with a divided, demoralised society, foreign adversaries can take advantage.

Millions have been brainwashed with the woke leftist mind virus.

People need to drastically sanitise the education system and treat it as the enemy within, as infiltration.

Most of those celebrating Charlie Kirks demise were teachers.

 

[Van]

When I was young, we had a firebrand turning the lives of thousands of youths toward Christ, his name was Billy Graham. I did not realize how much of Christ's Law of Liberty was entwined in Kirk's public message. One thing is for sure, he was vilified for presenting God's truth, as he understood it.