Is Drinking Alcohol a Sin?

Didn't you know annsni, using the whole of Scripture in context is against the pharisee code of conduct. They tried it with Jesus in His day and their children continue in our day.

Bro Tony

 

Go back and study more, annsni. That is clearly fermented wine in verse 31. And Solomon did not warn against looking at it afer getting drunk.

He first tells who has sorrow and strife, wounds without cause, redness of eyes, etc. He then goes on to warn not even to look at alcoholic drinks... not even to have experience with, not approve of. Then he describes further wat the result of not heeding that warning leads to.

 

Even reading the entire passage does not make verse 31 any less alcoholic, annsni. As a matter of fact, if one said that was not alcoholic wine in verse 31, what was the writer warning the reader of the effects of it for?

No, the warning to leave the alcoholic beverage is clearly written there.

Of course, since wine is a mocker and it deceives, I can see how the ones who advocate 'just one glass', or 'moderation' do not see the warning. It has clouded their judgment.

 

copied from:http://www.fbbc.com/messages/one_step/one_step_34.htm

 

Saturn, it's not because they abstain...it's because they act like the Pharisees of Jesus' day.

 

Pharisees wanted man to follow rules outside of God's rules, Abstinence is not outside of God's rules.

 

SFIC,

I would be interested, as some others, in your answer concerning this thread:

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=34837

 

Time to change the Bible again.

Verse 15 should actually read:

For these are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is against God's command that any should drink new wine, which is only grape juice anyway and not alcoholic wine.

 

Aufidius forti miscebat mella Falerno.
Mendose: quoniam vacuis committere venis
Nil nisi lene decet: leni praecordia mulso
Prolueris melius._____


Aufidius first, most injudicious, quaffed
Strong wine and honey for his morning draught.
With lenient bev'rage fill your empty veins,
For lenient must will better cleanse the reins.
FRANCIS.

Ac 2:1599 Geneva Bible Notes:
2:13 Others (g) mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

(g) The word which he uses here signifies a kind of mocking which is reproachful and insolent: and by this reproachful mocking we see that no matter how great and excellent the miracle, the wickedness of man still dares to speak evil against it.

New wine. gleukouv. This word properly means the juice of the grape which distils before a pressure is applied, and called must. It was sweet wine; and hence the word in Greek meaning sweet was given to it. The ancients, it is said, had the art of preserving their new wine with the peculiar flavour before fermentation for a considerable time, and were in the habit of drinking it in the morning. See Horace, Sat. b. ii. iv. Sweet wine, which was probably the same as that mentioned here, is also mentioned in the Old Testament, Isa 49:26; Am 9:13.

 

The fact that the men were mocking them, accusing them of being drunk by their new wine (sweet wine and unfermented) is denied by Peter in the fifteenth verse when he states, 'These men are not drunk as ye suppose...'

NO, it was just another accusation and another instance of trying to make wine alcoholic in an instance that it was not alcoholic at all.

 

Luke 7:34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!

 

But wisdom is justified of her children.

Jesus was not drinking alcohol, nor was he saying he was. The statemsnt But wisdom is justified of her children was his telling them that he was not a wine bibber and a glutton.

As a matter of fact, that answer was answering their accusation against John as well.

If Christ was admitting to drinking alcohol, then he was also admitting that John had a demon. No, that was not the case.

 

For some, you are correct. For all you, as you claim, you are not correct. From your own quote of what a Pharisee wanted, you fall into that category.

 

Not so. The Word of God commands abstinence. Many are just too blind by their own fleshly desires to see it.

 

Again, you have misunderstood. Christ was not admitting to being a glutten or winebibber just as He was not admitting that John had a demon. The examples, however, were valid.

Christ tells us John did not eat bread nor drink wine. Christ tells us that he did. Both were reviled and judgments made -- by the same legalists -- that both men were wrong.

 

In Christ saying 'But wisdom is justified of her children', he was answering that John did not have a demon and he was not a wine drinker.

Jesus was our High Priest according to the book of Hebrews. Solomon said priests were not to drink wine at all lest it pervert their judgment.

Christ, as our High Priest would not have drank alcoholic wine, nor would he have endorsed it.

 

I do not see those words nor wring that meaning from them. Please clarify.

 

Why do I see this thread (with the same subject for about the fifth time in a year) as ranking on a par with the C/A and KJVO/ MV threads, which subjects have probably made even more appearances? It's almost enough to drive this 'teetotaler' to drink! Can you believe we are already to page 20?

Ed