I have yet to meet anyone that was saved from watching an episode of Get Smart. </font>[/QUOTE]That is because Get Smart is totally ficticious, while the Passion is mostly ficticious with a few accounts from the Bible sprinkled in. The Chronicles of Narnia, however, has no Biblical accounts.It appears that Hollyweird has gone from bad to worse.
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Is Harry Potter and Narnia good for the church?
- Thread starter Boanerges
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You must have seen another movie. The POTC is mostly biblical with some dramatic license and fiction infused. Nothing wrong with that, since no movie made from scripture can be made without some amount of varying dramatic license. Jesus of Nazareth and Price of Egypt contain more dramatic license that POTC. The problem people have with POTC is not the dramatic licence, it's the fact that a Catholic made it. They just don't give that as a reason.
BTW, as far as numbers: I am personally aware of 7 people who came to the Lord after seeing the film, and 12 people who were backslidden/prodigal and came back.
How do you know TLTWATW has no biblical accounts? There are biblical themes in the book, and since it hasn't been released yet, you cannot say that those themes in the book are absent from the film.
It should be noted, however, that CS Lewis' stepson worked on this film, and has said that this film is highly faithful to the book.
Maybe someone should do a story with all sorts of special effects loosely based on the life of buddha. He was a good man. He turned away worldly possessions to philosiphize and make a difference. We could probably find an allegory for Christ in there somewhere, couldn't we?
Boanerges, your analogies are so offbase, I can't even find the word "offbase" listed in the doctionary anymore. Not even apples and oranges. More like apples and skyscrapers.
But hey, if someone wants to make a movie based on the life of Buddha, let them. If it's good, I'll probably watch it. If it's not, I probably won't.
But hey, if someone wants to make a movie based on the life of Buddha, let them. If it's good, I'll probably watch it. If it's not, I probably won't.
You must have seen another movie. The POTC is mostly biblical with some dramatic license and fiction infused. </font>[/QUOTE]I have no problem with Catholics John. I have a problem with mysticism being presented in a allegedly Christian medium. Christ and belial have no fellowship, as it is written. Take a look at the movie scene comparison a way down on this page:
http://www.av1611.org/Passion/passion.html
No thanks. I've seen the film several times, read the book (all 4 of them) and find the film to be an adequate portrayal and a suitable witnessing tool. If you don't like it, then don't watch the movie.
Kind of like comparing KJVOism to sound biblical doctrine. </font>[/QUOTE]Wouldn't know John. That is one of the "wind mills" that you gleefully enjoy fighting.
Yet you have no problem crying "mysticism" and then linking to a KJVO website. Seems you have no problem with the windmill's blades.
And yes, I do enjoy fighting KJVOism. It's one of those false doctrines that's so easy to refute. But enjoy it or not, all who love the KJV should defend it from false doctrine.
I have no problem with KJVOists believing in the KJVO, or choosing not to go see the Narnia movie, or choosing Pepsi over Coke.
I only have a problem with them foisting their position on the rest of us as a matter of compulsory doctrine. Of this they are frequenters, and that is evidence to their lack of discernment.
I only have a problem with them foisting their position on the rest of us as a matter of compulsory doctrine. Of this they are frequenters, and that is evidence to their lack of discernment.
Their discernment was pretty good about the Passion movie on this KJVO site:
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/melgibson-thepassionofthechrist/dowehave-artistic-license.html
I wonder if they did anything about the Narnia movie. Let me look.
Found this on Lewis:
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/cslewisand.htm
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/melgibson-thepassionofthechrist/dowehave-artistic-license.html
I wonder if they did anything about the Narnia movie. Let me look.
Found this on Lewis:
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/cslewisand.htm
Oh, well, if David Cloud's website says so, then it must be so 
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The fact that this is David Cloud's website only serves to weaken your credibility. Why anyone would give a pharisee like Cloud the time of day is beyond me. But hey, if you want to refer to his wayoflies website, feel free.
.The fact that this is David Cloud's website only serves to weaken your credibility. Why anyone would give a pharisee like Cloud the time of day is beyond me. But hey, if you want to refer to his wayoflies website, feel free.
Could it be any worse than defending the Message John? I think not.Originally posted by Johnv:
Oh, well, if David Cloud's website says so, then it must be so
The fact that this is David Cloud's website only serves to weaken your credibility. Why anyone would give a pharisee like Cloud the time of day is beyond me. But hey, if you want to refer to his wayoflies website, feel free.
eloidalmanutha
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I love the "allegory" of the Bible:
Jesus is the Living Water.
Jesus is the Bread of Life.
Jesus is the Good Shepherd.
Jesus is the Light of the World.
Jesus is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah.
Jesus is the Vine.
Jesus is the Olive Tree.
Jesus is the Root of David.
Jesus is the Alpha and Omega.
I can't find Jesus allegorized as a talking lion who is sacrificed on an altar with the name of aslan, however . . .
Jesus is the Living Water.
Jesus is the Bread of Life.
Jesus is the Good Shepherd.
Jesus is the Light of the World.
Jesus is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah.
Jesus is the Vine.
Jesus is the Olive Tree.
Jesus is the Root of David.
Jesus is the Alpha and Omega.
I can't find Jesus allegorized as a talking lion who is sacrificed on an altar with the name of aslan, however . . .
eloidalmanutha
New Member
a few quotes to savor - from a Chronicles of Narnia site - from the horse's mouth, as they say
"The audience grows to love Aslan and everything that he symbolizes; they begin to wish for someone like Aslan in this world. After finding this love for Aslan, they will ideally transfer that love to Christ when presented with the Gospel later in life. It is important to remember that The Chronicles of Narnia are successful because many readers do not realize the resemblance of Aslan to Jesus Christ."
"Although the readers may not notice the symbolism as a child, they will learn from the ethics of The Chronicles of Narnia, grow in character, and therefore be more accepting of the Gospel."
"In The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, the fifth book of the series, Aslan tells the children that although they must return to their own world, they can find him there also (Hooper 123). Aslan says, "There I have another name. You must learn to know me by that name. This was the very reason why you were brought to Narnia, that by knowing me here for a little, you may know me better there" (Hooper 123). Some of Lewis' readers wonder what the significance of this statement is and begin to search for Aslan here on earth."
http://cslewis.drzeus.net/papers/success.html
h m m m ...... I think I recall a verse ...... oh yes .......
Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
"The audience grows to love Aslan and everything that he symbolizes; they begin to wish for someone like Aslan in this world. After finding this love for Aslan, they will ideally transfer that love to Christ when presented with the Gospel later in life. It is important to remember that The Chronicles of Narnia are successful because many readers do not realize the resemblance of Aslan to Jesus Christ."
"Although the readers may not notice the symbolism as a child, they will learn from the ethics of The Chronicles of Narnia, grow in character, and therefore be more accepting of the Gospel."
"In The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, the fifth book of the series, Aslan tells the children that although they must return to their own world, they can find him there also (Hooper 123). Aslan says, "There I have another name. You must learn to know me by that name. This was the very reason why you were brought to Narnia, that by knowing me here for a little, you may know me better there" (Hooper 123). Some of Lewis' readers wonder what the significance of this statement is and begin to search for Aslan here on earth."
http://cslewis.drzeus.net/papers/success.html
h m m m ...... I think I recall a verse ...... oh yes .......
Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.