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Is Irresistible Grace "resistible"?

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quantumfaith

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I think its humorous to watch Luke & webdog go at each other. Ironically, its people like these 2—who are so dedication to biblical truth, yet reach conclusions to their biblical interpretation that are so diametrically opposed-- that makes me reexamine my own biblical interpretation & keeps me coming back to these threads. If you 2 could put aside the soteriological differences long enough—you’d make the perfect stars for a theological sit-com. :laugh:

"As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another". In truth, that should be at the heart of our debate here on BB, but being human, we too often degenerate into defending each of our "sacred cows".
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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I think its humorous to watch Luke & webdog go at each other. Ironically, its people like these 2—who are so dedication to biblical truth, yet reach conclusions to their biblical interpretation that are so diametrically opposed-- that makes me reexamine my own biblical interpretation & keeps me coming back to these threads. If you 2 could put aside the soteriological differences long enough—you’d make the perfect stars for a theological sit-com. :laugh:

Oh thats deep, are you also a pastor?
 

Gabriel Elijah

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What kind of dogs theologian do you own?

I’ve got an old Tennessee hound dog & lil mini weenie dog. I want a tea cup piglet—but my wife aint down wif tha pig as of now—but 1 day—I’ll get him & his name is gonna be Karlstadt!
 

Gabriel Elijah

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GE: What is the significance of "Karlstadt"? Have you been to Germany?


My undergrad was focused on Reformation history—although the main focal point was the Swiss Reformation & Zwingli—but anyway I was gonna name the pig “Luther” b/c he was called a wild boar—but Karlstadt is a more unique name & it still keeps to reformation thought.
 

quantumfaith

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My undergrad was focused on Reformation history—although the main focal point was the Swiss Reformation & Zwingli—but anyway I was gonna name the pig “Luther” b/c he was called a wild boar—but Karlstadt is a more unique name & it still keeps to reformation thought.

:)....I lived for 3 years not very far from Karlstadt. Wiesbaden. Wonderful and beautiful country.
 

Gabriel Elijah

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:)....I lived for 3 years not very far from Karlstadt. Wiesbaden. Wonderful and beautiful country.

That is so cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’ve always wanted to go there & to Zurich!! Man I’m gonna admit-I’m a lil jealous! If you ever go back—feel free 2 take me with ya!:thumbsup:
 

quantumfaith

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That is so cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’ve always wanted to go there & to Zurich!! Man I’m gonna admit-I’m a lil jealous! If you ever go back—feel free 2 take me with ya!:thumbsup:

Switzerland is absolutely beautiful too. My favorite was a small town called Interlaken.

My wife and I, over the week of Thanksgiving took a trip to Ireland. We very much loved the country and the people and wish to go back. We are trying to convince our Church Campus to consider beginning a satellite campus in Dublin, perhaps in a few years when I retire we might be able to make that happen. The Irish people, and most of Europe for that matter, sure could use some evangelical influence.
 

Luke2427

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I think its humorous to watch Luke & webdog go at each other. Ironically, its people like these 2—who are so dedication to biblical truth, yet reach conclusions to their biblical interpretation that are so diametrically opposed-- that makes me reexamine my own biblical interpretation & keeps me coming back to these threads. If you 2 could put aside the soteriological differences long enough—you’d make the perfect stars for a theological sit-com. :laugh:

?Seeing it from your perspective- it IS kind of funny isn't it?:laugh:
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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My undergrad was focused on Reformation history—although the main focal point was the Swiss Reformation & Zwingli—but anyway I was gonna name the pig “Luther” b/c he was called a wild boar—but Karlstadt is a more unique name & it still keeps to reformation thought.

That must have required that you be up on the Swiss German and or French. Can you speak those languages. Also what was the "Faith" makeup of most of the population there ....was it 65% Catholic & 35% Reformed for example.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Switzerland is absolutely beautiful too. My favorite was a small town called Interlaken.

My wife and I, over the week of Thanksgiving took a trip to Ireland. We very much loved the country and the people and wish to go back. We are trying to convince our Church Campus to consider beginning a satellite campus in Dublin, perhaps in a few years when I retire we might be able to make that happen. The Irish people, and most of Europe for that matter, sure could use some evangelical influence.

Why go to Ireland when I have plenty of Wayward Catholics up here.... yea, yea I know .... Retirement.

That begs the question though....Why dont I see you Southern types in NJ? Too Cold, too Expensive, too hard to penetrate perhaps?
 

Gabriel Elijah

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That must have required that you be up on the Swiss German and or French. Can you speak those languages. Also what was the "Faith" makeup of most of the population there ....was it 65% Catholic & 35% Reformed for example.

Lol- no dear friend for an undergrad no need to be fluent in German, French, ect. Now if I wanted a phd in Reformation history I’d have to be fluent in them. When I got my Masters in biblical/theological studies I had to get better than average at Greek—but not for undergrad. Although I did take some German & began to recognize words the more I saw them—I usually just got translated primary docs or took it the German dept to get translated. My main professor was fluent in French so he translated any French primary docs I needed. But as far as my ability to speak the language—I think I can still count to 10 in German but that’s about it-lol. But I normally just read tons of history books written in English (such authors as Euan Cameron, W L Spitz, H A Oberman, A E McGrath, Bruce Gordon, ect.). For theology I used Timothy George & others & Got source translates by Carter Lindberg & others—but they all in English-lol. Not sure about the percentage of faith make up but once religion got in bed with the political leaders, monarchs, or what ever kind of ruler was in an area—u did not usually go against what they were or u’d probably die. That’s what makes Luther interesting—he was not the first one with reformation ideas—he was just the first to go against the establishment & live to tell others about it!
 
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Earth Wind and Fire

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Lol- no dear friend for an undergrad no need to be fluent in German, French, ect. Now if I wanted a phd in Reformation history I’d have to be fluent in them. When I got my Masters in biblical/theological studies I had to get better than average at Greek—but not for undergrad. Although I did take some German & began to recognize words the more I saw them—I usually just got translated primary docs or took it the German dept to get translated. My main professor was fluent in French so he translated any French primary docs I needed. But as far as my ability to speak the language—I think I can still count to 10 in German but that’s about it-lol. But I normally just read tons of history books written in English (such authors as Euan Cameron, W L Spitz, H A Oberman, A E McGrath, Bruce Gordon, ect.). For theology I used Timothy George & others & Got source translates by Carter Lindberg & others—but they all in English-lol. Not sure about the percentage of faith make up but once religion got in bed with the political leaders, monarchs, or what ever kind of ruler was in an area—u did not go against what they where or u’d probably die. That’s what makes Luther interesting—he was not the first one with reformation ideas—he was just the first to go against the establishment & live tell others about it!

A hero for me has always been James Montgomery Boice His background:

Boice received a diploma from The Stony Brook School (1956), an A.B. from Harvard University (1960), a B.D. from Princeton Theological Seminary (1963), a Th.D from the University of Basel in Switzerland (1966), and a D.D., (honorary) from the Theological Seminary of the Reformed Episcopal Church (1982).

My wifes father & family are from Stuttgart & they speak with that same dialect (old German) that the Swiss have & her mothers side were Covenanter's in Scotland & some of them emigrated to Switzerland after persecutions by the English so the wife is very Reformed in thought. Switzerland though can be cold & the New Switzerland today for us is Tampa Florida....Ha Ha Ha:laugh:
 

Gabriel Elijah

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A hero for me has always been James Montgomery Boice His background:

Boice received a diploma from The Stony Brook School (1956), an A.B. from Harvard University (1960), a B.D. from Princeton Theological Seminary (1963), a Th.D from the University of Basel in Switzerland (1966), and a D.D., (honorary) from the Theological Seminary of the Reformed Episcopal Church (1982).

My wifes father & family are from Stuttgart & they speak with that same dialect (old German) that the Swiss have & her mothers side were Covenanter's in Scotland & some of them emigrated to Switzerland after persecutions by the English so the wife is very Reformed in thought. Switzerland though can be cold & the New Switzerland today for us is Tampa Florida....Ha Ha Ha:laugh:
Now that’s a complex but interesting family tree! By tha way I’ve always liked Boice—his voice was very authoritative yet welcoming—& his lectures always deep yet easily understandable—he was a rare breed—4 sure!
 
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