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IS IT IN THE BIBLE??

Bob

New Member
Very few "new" things are happening; we have had war, famine, plague, (AIDS) and terrorism since day-one. What I look at is how fast things are happening today. Just a few dozen decades ago, we could travel around on the earth no faster than we did in the days of Abraham. Before the first Chinese mortars and cannons were made, relatively recently, the cross bow was still the most tenacious hand held weapon around. Just recently have spaceships, computers, and cell phones become a part of everyday life. And prior to communications sattilites and atomic weapons, many of the End-Time Bible prophesies could not have happened. And now we are having global warming, which is definitely predicted in the Scripture.
I would like to hear other opinions on this subject.
 

tamborine lady

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Hi Bob,

I do think that the scripture in Daniel that says knowledge will increase is being fulfilled in our time. There are people of course that say that scripture means something else, but I think it is a direct reference to our time!!

Dan 12-4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Selah,

Tam
 
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TexasSky

Guest
I am not registered with the reservation, but I could. I just choose not to.

That up front -

I think we are both the bad guys.

Certain white men wanted to live in peace, certain indians wanted to live in peace.
Certain white men wanted to grab all they could, no matter what the cost.
Certain indians wanted to grab all they could, not matter what the cost.

The peace treaties were broken by both sides.
 

prophecynut

New Member
Claudia_T
The Bible does say that right before the second coming of Christ "nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom"
Mt. 24 concerns the Tribulation and not now during the Church Age.


Amen, Brother Johnv--Preach it!


Tammy
Dan 12-4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
The "time of the end" pertains to the Tribulation of 3.5 years or "a time, times and half a time" (vs. 6-9).
 

tamborine lady

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PN: Since I don't buy into the "7 years trib" bit, I must say that the 3 1/2 years thing doesn't wash.

There will be more tribulation before it's over, but not any amount of time that one can put a time on.

"No man knows the day nor the hour, nor the seasons."

So we can't put any time frame on it, because we will not know!!

Peace,

Tam
 

rsr

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Moderator
yeshua said:

" ... to say that Americans (the individuals) did this is wrong. the Government did this (for the most part in secret)and at the time it occured the majority of the population(outside the Fed Gov't and 'in the know') were against this sort of genocide (though many had been brainwashed by darwins teaching that they were less evolved than us) ... "

I think that radically understates the limits of the culpability. In many cases, demand for removal were from the local population and state governments (some of whom outlawed whites settling on Indian land to prevent missionaries from taking up residence.) The Comanches had no more determined foe than the Texas Rangers.

Policy toward the Native Americans was hardly a secret. Some American spoke up against it; most did not.

As to the effect of racism, Henry Clay's "The Indians' disappearance from the human family will be no great loss to the world. I do not think them, as a race, worth preserving." came long before Darwin. It was endemic from early in the time of European settlement.

As to "unfair" trades: The Native Americans had a radically different idea of land tenure than Europeans. No one could "own" the land anymore than someone could "own" the Milky Way.
 

prophecynut

New Member
20 years ago I established a time frame for the last 3.5 years, eventually most Christians will accept it, but obviously there will be those unable to acknowledge the truth. Only after all the prophetic pieces are assembled in book form will it finally sink in for the majority.
 

rsr

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Moderator
"Only after all the prophetic pieces are assembled in book form will it finally sink in for the majority."

Been done, prophecynut. Been done — done to death.
 

KenH

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by prophecynut:
20 years ago I established a time frame for the last 3.5 years, eventually most Christians will accept it
It's better if Christians accept the Bible alone.
 

Ed Edwards

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The end of Daniel 27 clearly sets up two each ½-of-7-years
periods - each 3½-years long. Revelation mentions
five different subjects for 3½-years (time, times, and
half a time), OR 42 months, OR 1260 days. I think also
i remember a 1260 days period in Daniel 12 as well, maybe
Daniel 11. To say these are all the same is probably
missing out on something for Daniel 9 speaks of two
halfs of a 7-year period.

Or, as i said earlier:
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I will show IT IS WRITTEN:
The Anti-messiah shall reign for 7-years,
the Tribulation period.
The rapture (caught up) will follow a resurrection.
The rapture/resurrection will occur without
previous notice and before the Tribulation period
(wrath).
The rapture (caught up)/resurrection (gathering)
is at the beginning of the Tribulation period
(time of the Anti-messiah)

The Anti-messiah shall reign for 7-years,
the Tribulation period. FOR IT IS WRITTEN
in Daniel 9:26-27 (nKJV):

"And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah
shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to
come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations
are determined.
27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with
many for one week; But in the middle
of the week He shall bring an end
to sacrifice and offering. And on
the wing of abominations shall be
one who makes desolate, Even until
the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate."

Please note the lower case "h" in "he" in verse 27
refering not to Messiah in verse 26 but the
to the "prince that shall come".
Note it is written that the Anti-messiah's seven years
are divided in the middle by the abomination
of desolation, dividing the 7-year period into
to parts each 3½-years long (1260 days, 42 months).

The rapture (caught up) will follow a resurrection,
FOR IT IS WRITTEN in 1 Thessalonains 4:13-18 (KJV1873):

But I would not have you to be ignorant,
brethren, concerning them which are asleep,
that ye sorrow not, even as others which have
no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose
again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus
will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of
the Lord, that we which are alive and remain
unto the coming of the Lord shall
not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from
heaven with a shout, with the voice
of the archangel, and with the trump of God:
and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain
shall be caught up together with them
in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air:
and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

The rapture/resurrection will occur without
previous notice and before the Tribulation period
(wrath) FOR IT IS WRITTEN in
1 Thessalonains 5:1-10 (KJV1873):

1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren,
ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that
the day of the Lord so cometh as
a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say,
Peace and safety; then sudden destruction
cometh upon them, as travail upon
a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness,
that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light,
and the children of the day: we are
not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others;
but let us watch and be sober.
7 For they that sleep sleep in the night;
and they that be drunken are drunken
in the night.
8 But let us, who are of the day,
be sober, putting on the breastplate
of faith and love; and for an helmet,
the hope of salvation.
9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath,
but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 Who died for us, that, whether
we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together,
and edify one another, even as also ye do.

The rapture (caught up)/resurrection (gathering)
is at the beginning of the Tribulation period
(time of the Anti-messiah)
FOR IT IS WRITTEN in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 (KJV1873):

Now we beseech you, brethren,
by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind,
or be troubled, neither by spirit,
nor by word, nor by letter as from us,
as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means:
for that day shall not come, except
there come a falling away first,
and that man of sin be revealed,
the son of perdition;

I have shown IT IS WRITTEN:
The Anti-messiah shall reign for 7-years,
the Tribulation period.
The rapture (caught up) will follow a resurrection.
The rapture/resurrection will occur without
previous notice and before the Tribulation period
(wrath).
The rapture (caught up)/resurrection (gathering)
is at the beginning of the Tribulation period
(time of the Anti-messiah)
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While the Bible is specific on the length
of various events, it doesn't tell us
when the events will start with the pretribulation
rapture/resurrection.

BTW, on topic, the USofA isn't mentioned
in the Bible. I think God can tell the
difference between New York and Babylon
just as He can tell the difference between
Rome and Bablyon.
 

rsr

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Moderator
Personally, I am skeptical of all eschatological roadmaps that string together chapters and verses into a coherent whole that will somehow alert us to the "last days." Anyone who claims otherwise, IMO, is stepping beyond Scripture.

"But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. As were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left. Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left. Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.

But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

— Matthew 24:36-44 ESV
 

prophecynut

New Member
Originally posted by rsr:


"But concerning that day and hour no one knows,

for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.

Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

The "day and hour" does not include the month or year. Are you unintentionally adding to Scripture?

The personal pronoun "you" refers to whom? Jews in the gospels are always told to "watch" for their Messiah and the Church is always told to "wait" for their Savior, do you know why?
 

Ed Edwards

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Prophecynut: //The "day and hour" does not include
the month or year.//

I respctfully disagree. In prophetic language 'day'
means the appropriate time. In prophetic language
'hour' means the appropriate time. If used in
prophetic language 'month' would mean the appropriate
time. If used in prophetic langauge 'year' would
mean the appropriate time. In prophetic language
'day and hour' means the REALLY appropriate time.

Rsr: //Personally, I am skeptical of all eschatological roadmaps that string together chapters and verses into a coherent whole that will somehow alert us to the "last days." //

Act 2:14-19 (KJV 1611 Edition):
But Peter standing vp with the eleuen, lift vp his voyce, and said vnto them, Ye men of Iudea, & all ye that dwell at Hierusalem, be this knowen vnto you, and hearken to my words:
15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third houre of the day.
16 But this is that which was spoken by the Prophet Ioel,
17 And it shall come to passe in the last dayes (saith God)
I will powre out of my Spirit vpon all flesh: and your sonnes and your daughters shall prophesie, and your yong men shall see visions, and your old men shall dreame dreames:
18 And on my seruants, and on my handmaidens, I will powre out in those daies of my Spirit, and they shall prophesie:
19 And I wil shew wonders in heauen aboue, and signes in the earth beneath: blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke.

The last days began on the day of Pentacost, 33AD (some will
say this date varies, but this event marks the
beginning of the last days). The last days will end at
the pretribulation rapture/resurreciton of the global chruch,
The Bride of Christ, the Body of Christ. This will be
the start of the Tribualtion period of two 3½-year periods.
The end of the age has not come yet. But now is the end
of the age closer than it has ever been before.
 

tamborine lady

Active Member
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Acts 1-6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

I believe times and seasons includes years!!

Selah

Tam
 

prophecynut

New Member
Tammy's quote
He said to (them): It is not for (you) to know the times or the seasons,

The personal pronouns "them" and "you" refers to the "apostles" in verse 3, not the Church which began later at Pentecost. The Church was still a mystery at this time and not in the context of this passage.
 

NaasPreacher (C4K)

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by prophecynut:

As posted in a different thread, there is a reference to foreigners being sent to USA for the purpose for selecting targets for destruction (Jer. 51:2). During the coming invasion of America foreigners will fall victim to the sword (50:37), those who escape the sword will "flee to (their) own land" (50:16).

The foreigners who want to destroy America are mostly Muslims from various nations, specifically the Iranians (51:11; 28). The foreigners here during the invasion and those who escape the sword and return to their native land are from all the nations.

All this will happen before its "too late" to retaliate, that day of destruction will come like a thief in the night, "suddenly" like a "trap" (Jer. 50:24; Lk. 21:34; 1 Thess. 5:2-3).

England and Israel will experience the same.
Where do you find the US and UK in Scripture? I have yet to find them.
 
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