IS IT IN THE BIBLE??

[prophecynut]

Jer. 50 is one of seven prophetic chapters on US, England is our "mother" (v.12).

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

And you have Biblical proof of that I assume?

Could you point me to a reference that this chapter talks about the United States and her mother England?

 

[prophecynut]

Yep, sure do, all the pieces fit together, the picture is complete.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

How about some Bible proof instead of a personal interpretation?

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

I keep seeing Babylon and Chaldea in this passage, not the US and her mother.

The word that the LORD spoke against Babylon and against the land of the Chaldeans by Jeremiah the prophet. Declare ye among the nations, and publish, and set up a standard; publish, and conceal not: say, Babylon is taken, Bel is confounded, Merodach is broken in pieces; her idols are confounded, her images are broken in pieces. For out of the north there cometh up a nation against her, which shall make her land desolate, and none shall dwell therein: they shall remove, they shall depart, both man and beast. In those days, and in that time, saith the LORD, the children of Israel shall come, they and the children of Judah together, going and weeping: they shall go, and seek the LORD their God. They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces thitherward, saying, Come, and let us join ourselves to the LORD in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten. My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their resting place. All that found them have devoured them: and their adversaries said, We offend not, because they have sinned against the LORD, the habitation of justice, even the LORD, the hope of their fathers. Remove out of the midst of Babylon, and go forth out of the land of the Chaldeans, and be as the he goats before the flocks. For, lo, I will raise and cause to come up against Babylon an assembly of great nations from the north country: and they shall set themselves in array against her; from thence she shall be taken: their arrows shall be as of a mighty expert man; none shall return in vain. And Chaldea shall be a spoil: all that spoil her shall be satisfied, saith the LORD. Because ye were glad, because ye rejoiced, O ye destroyers of mine heritage, because ye are grown fat as the heifer at grass, and bellow as bulls; Your mother shall be sore confounded; she that bore you shall be ashamed: behold, the hindmost of the nations shall be a wilderness, a dry land, and a desert.
(Jer 50:1-12)

Is this talking about a Canadian invasion of the US?

 

[prophecynut]

"out of the north there cometh up a nation against her" - this is Russia.

"Come up against Babylon an assembly of great nations from the north country" - this is Russia and Muslim nations, will include former Soviet Union satellite nations that still have Soviet missles.

 

[prophecynut]

Other nations coming against us are "Ararat, Minni and Ashkenaz" (51:27)." Ararat is located in present-day Armenia near Lake Van. Minni is located south of Lake Urmia in what is today western Iran, and Ashkenaz is located near Lake Urmia and Ararat.
These three nations make up the land area between the Turkey border and the Caspian Sea, also the location of Russia nuclear missiles.

 

[TexasSky]

In the late 1970's and early 1980's there were some very respected theologians who thought the end was going to come "very soon," during the 1980's. I can't remember now what the exact year they said was.

They were certain it was going to be some kind of nuclear war between Russia and the US. We were both supporting opposite sides in some of the Middle East wars, we hated each other, the "biblical warnings" seemed to be happening (wars, earthquakes, etc.) Some verses in Daniel that talked about a bear rising up were thought to be Russia. Some of the Ezekiel references to eagles were taken to be America.

Some people thought Gorbachev was the AntiChrist due to the fact he had a birthmark on his head.

They were wrong.

Then another group sprang up. They were certain the end was going to be a nuclear war started by Israel, and that it would happen before the year 2000.

God will pick his time. We need to be ready - whether it is today or 10,000 years from now. We need to witness and do the work God gave us to do.

 

[KenH]

Originally posted by prophecynut:
Yep, sure do, all the pieces fit together, the picture is complete.

Anybody can take any prophecy and twist it around to claim it menS whatever he wants to make it say. That's how we end up with cults like the one in Waco back in the early 1990s - the Branch Davidians.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Originally posted by prophecynut:
"out of the north there cometh up a nation against her" - this is Russia.

"Come up against Babylon an assembly of great nations from the north country" - this is Russia and Muslim nations, will include former Soviet Union satellite nations that still have Soviet missles.

Russia is north of the United States? I must need a new map.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Originally posted by rsr:
Personally, I am skeptical of all eschatological roadmaps that string together chapters and verses into a coherent whole that will somehow alert us to the "last days." Anyone who claims otherwise, IMO, is stepping beyond Scripture.

"But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. As were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left. Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left. Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.

But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

— Matthew 24:36-44 ESV

Once again I find myself in agreemement with my dear brother.

 

[prophecynut]

Russian missiles will come from the north over the North Pole, the earth is round, not flat.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Gotcha.

A nation from the North is actually a nation from the other side of the globe who fires their missiles northwards, which becomes southwards when they cross the North Pole.

So actually Brazil is north of the Unites States as well. Interesting geography.

Another thought - since Russia is North of the US is the US also north of Russia?