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Is it ok for a Christian to vote for a Muslim?
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HatedByAll
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The problem with saying that is it is possible a worse choice could be running on the other side. . .
It is very unlikely I would ever consider voting for a Muslim. But, would have to consider it if a Muslim who claims to be Muslim does so because the family is Muslim if they were running against someone who would vote to legalize abortion up to and including after birth.
It is very unlikely I would ever consider voting for a Muslim. But, would have to consider it if a Muslim who claims to be Muslim does so because the family is Muslim if they were running against someone who would vote to legalize abortion up to and including after birth.
So, you’d vote for Satan if he said he was against abortion?
You don’t understand that Islam is not like Hinduism, Sihkism, Buddhism, Confucianism, Judaism, Shintoism, Atheism, etc.
You’re thinking from the point of view that there are some points where you can share common ground with Muslims.
This Muslim also doesn’t believe in evolution. I’ll vote him in to the State Board of Education. I’d rather have him than some awful atheist - force my kid to learn evolution . . . teach that atheist.
And then they find out that the Muslim doesn’t believe in evolution, but also doesn’t quite believe in our Creation either.
Islam is the opposite of Christianity on every single point. Yes, everything that might seem similar is actually the opposite of Christianity if any Christian actually looks closer to examine it.
Muslims have no problem with babies being killed or babies dying. They’ll go out of their way to force some babies to term and care less about others. They might tell you they are against abortion, but believing them is as wise as believing Satan.
But you wouldn’t be the first to betray Christianity to support what is considered to be a “noble” goal. Throughout history, non-Muslims worked with Muslims with the idea that the temporary alliance would benefit them. Such alliances have always ended bad for Christianity.
>Myth: Muhammad Never Killed Children
Child of Shamima Begum, ISIS Teenager Trying to Return to Britain, Dies in Syria
So, you’d vote for Satan if he said he supported religious and market freedom?
I think some "Christians" would support Satan if he wanted endless war in the middle-east (which he does).
Mostly, I vote for the lessor of two evils. So, no Satan, as he's the greater of two evils. Also refusing to vote for the lessor of two evils is effectively a vote for the greater evil.
If you know what Islam is about, you’d know that it is never the lesser of two evils.
So now you can educate yourself into the understanding that Islam is never the lesser of two evils. I suggest starting with ACTS17 apologetics.
Considering when it comes to right-wing Christians, there's a strong current of Islamophobia, which is why the OP doesn't ask "Would you ever vote a non-Christian?" Would you ever vote for a non-Christian? If you say yes, I have to tell you, if you knew what ______ was about, you'd know that it is never the lessor of two evils.
There will soon be two billions Muslim in the world, and I'm sure they come in all varieties, including millions of them that are better than the "Christians" running for the Democrat nomination. Yes, Muslims can be the lessor of two evils.
Look at all the right-wing Christians who want the US to support the Iranian Muslims called "Kurds", even though it's against US interests. Maybe they didn't get your message that Muslims are never the lessor of two evils?
Definition - the state of not being ignorant about Islam.
So, you’re proud to be ignorant and you want to go out of your way to stay that way. Well, I can’t force you to educate yourself. If you want to believe that a religion which practices pedophilia is the same as _______ religion, then go ahead. I can’t stop you from going out of your way to remain ignorant.
And yes, most people who back the Kurds really don’t understand who they are backing. They hear lovely tales from certain media groups and none of them really know what’s up.
The only benefit of dealing with some Muslims is that that are only half as ignorant as you are about the religion. So, they only do half of the evil stuff that they are suppose to do. Unfortunately, literacy rates are rising in the Muslim world.
HatedByAll
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I would never be one to take the side of the Muslims. I wish our Constitution allowed us to deport all of them. But not every single person ever born a Muslim believes all the radical garbage that they preach. Yes, I believe every Democratic candidate for the office of President right now supports ideas that are as evil or worse as those the the average Muslim US citizen believes.
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Conflating the Kurds with the Iranians is like conflating the Dutch with the Germans. The problem is yes the Kurds in Syria are organized by the PKK. Which is Marxist. Like Marxists the world over, it's taking advantage of a conflict of which they didn't start.
Waiting for the “electing a leader not a pastor” crowd to show up.
We are talking electing leaders not pastors. Happy now? ;-)
Agreed. Just read this article:Turkish attack on Syria endangers a remarkable democratic experiment by the Kurds
The last line tells the tale, Rojava (their currently held territory) sits atop Syria’s largest oil fields.
Democrat experiment by the Kurds? What a whitewash of terrorists who try to carve out land of their own in various countries, like Syria, Iraq, and Turkey.
Islamaphobia is the irrational fear of Muslims (unless they're Kurds, which many Islamophobes love to think of as Christians).
CNN just hosted an "Equity Town Hall" where Democrat front-runner Elizabeth Warren expressed her complete elitist contempt for people who don't want to be forced to engage in sodomistic speech. This same Warren has been threatening big tech with federal punishment, and is criticizing Facebook (which already censors conservatives) for not doing more to censor Trump. This same Warren wants to spend trillions of dollars on "green" initiatives, including a trillion dollars to fight "environmental racism."
Only someone irrational - phobic - would doubt there's not millions of Muslims who would make a better president than Warren. What are you afraid of? What do you think a constitutionally conservative Muslim would do to mess up your life. Warren would burn America to the ground in four years, if she got what she says she wants.
It’s only irrational if you’re ignorant and don’t know what you are talking about. Maybe you should educate yourself!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076CGCX2X/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p1_i8
If you’re completely illiterate like the Prophet Mohammed, there’s also an audible book.
I have have already said in this thread that I do not support the Kurds. You must have missed it because you’re illiterate?
I will go on to say that people tend to confuse tribalism with communism and democracy.
I have no problems with pitting on Muslim against another Muslim. So, pitting the Kurds against ISIS is fine by me.
Yes, Warren is a self-serving *** who will say anything to get elected. This seems to be a requirement of politicians nowadays.
Warren doesn’t want me dead. She may want to elect judges I don’t agree with and she will also probably put Muslims in positions I don’t want them to be. She will try to move the country closer to socialism.
But she doesn’t want me dead.
Those millions of Muslim alternatives you mention want me dead.
This is a paradox.
Now who’s paranoid?
Muslims have actually in the past, truly burned everything to the ground when they have gotten in power. This is not paranoia. This is studying history and not wishing to see it repeat.
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No, I caught that you're not a fan of the Kurds. But, the attitude of many endless-war Christians is summed up in the headline of this opinion article on a Christian news website: Stand by the Kurds—and Our Christian Brothers and Sisters: Let the White House Know.
Kurds, our Christian Brothers and Sisters? Kurds are basically the same as ISIS, using violence to secure territory, without respect to legitimate governments and existing national borders (which is why Turkey, our real ally, is justified in using force against them, but it's none of our business). If we "allied" with ISIS as we did the Kurds, they probably wouldn't have beheaded any Americans, but the Kurds would have.
Elisabeth Warren doesn't want you dead? Maybe, technically. But, I'd prefer death than to live in her vision of America.
We are nearing four million Muslims in America. Most of them are hear because Islamaphobes inadvertently bring them here, as a natural result of US troops in the middle-east. I've seen no evidence they're trying to kill Americans, other than maybe a very, very small minority of them.
I don't believe there are millions of constitutionally conservative Muslims, but I'm sure there's a few. Do you believe there are an constitutionally conservative Jews? In 2001, a survey of American Muslims (including those who didn't vote) showed that 42% voted for Bush and 31% for Al Gore. Conversely, Jews voted for Gore more than 2:1 over Bush. And, Jews will overwhelmingly vote for the next Democrat candidate. It seems that Muslims are more in line with Republicans (and, thus the Constitution) than are Jews (Ironically, in 2000, Bush, while pro-military, ran as a relatively anti-war candidate, too bad Islamophones are working on pushing Muslims into the Democrat camp, after bringing them to America). BTW, guess how much the Muslim population has grown since 2000?
The Muslim denies that Jesus is Lord, and worship a false god, so why vote for that?
I see you really like to argue with the straw man.
I know! W! Everyone hates him. What did he say about Islam.
Backgrounder: The President's Quotes on Islam
Nope. He was either lying or ignorant as well.
Hmm. . . Obama - just kidding.
Trump. Yes ALL FOUR MILLION fled to the U.S. under Trump.
I’m sorry, but I’ll just have to say that you’re full of it.
You’re putting your faith in Muslims . . .
Now this is funny and show how far the rabbit hole you’re willing to go. You’re bringing up Jews when they were not part of the conversation - chasing a red herring. I can think of only two groups which love Muslims and hate Jews.
Are you a member of either of these groups?
P.S. I wasn’t stupid enough to vote for W either.