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Is it sinful to pray for an evil person’s death?

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SovereignGrace

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Earth Wind and Fire said:
How about Job then, literally allowing Satan to destroy his life? Was that Gods doing and with foreknowledge of the outcome?
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The LORD said to Satan, “From where do you come?” Then Satan answered the LORD and said, “From roaming about on the earth and walking around on it.” The LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered My servant Job? For there is no one like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, fearing God and turning away from evil.”[Job 1:7-8]

Satan never mentioned anything about Job, the Lord did. Yet, Job never sinned with his lips. Even when he said “You speak as one of the foolish women speaks. Shall we indeed accept good from God and not accept adversity?” In all this Job did not sin with his lips.[Job 2:10] Job knew that which happened to Him was from the Lord. Yes, Satan did it, but God prompted him to do it.
 
utilyan

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The whole point was the challenge that the only reason Job liked God was because God only blessed him with Good fortune.

Job 1

9Then Satan answered the LORD, “Does Job fear God for nothing? 10“Have You not made a hedge about him and his house and all that he has, on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land. 11“But put forth Your hand now and touch all that he has; he will surely curse You to Your face.”

According to some theologies Satan was right, being that God works Job like a puppet and has no choice in the matter.
 
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Just to throw my two cents in, brother...
My encouragement to you is to pray that if it be to God’s glory and His will, that God grant her repentance and a changed heart. That His will be done above all here on earth, as it is heaven, and His justice be done swiftly.
It is only by His beautiful, abounding Grace that you aren’t describing me.
 
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". . . Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. . . ." --Matthew 5:43-48.
". . . We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. . . ." -- 1 John 3:12-15.
 
Earth Wind and Fire

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37818 said:
". . . Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. . . ." --Matthew 5:43-48.
". . . We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. . . ." -- 1 John 3:12-15.
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It will be a miracle indeed if she changes her ways. In the meantime she continues to hurt people.
 
Earth Wind and Fire

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37818 said:
Well becoming a Christian is miracle (Romans 1:16). So my question is, what do you know of this person's view of Christianity?
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I know it pretty well. But do you know what an Italian Catholic is? BTW her husbands a Polish Catholic. Typical NJ
 
SovereignGrace

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Earth Wind and Fire said:
It will be a miracle indeed if she changes her ways. In the meantime she continues to hurt people.
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Yet, God can change her heart. In fact, He is the only one who can. :)

But Saul began ravaging the church, entering house after house, and dragging off men and women, he would put them in prison.[Acts of the Apostles 8:3] Not a pretty picture of a man, is it? I bet the believing Gentiles felt about him the way you do this lady. Yet, God was merciful to him. If God can change Saul of Tarsus, changing her is easy peasy. :)
 
Earth Wind and Fire

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SovereignGrace said:
Yet, God can change her heart. In fact, He is the only one who can. :)

But Saul began ravaging the church, entering house after house, and dragging off men and women, he would put them in prison.[Acts of the Apostles 8:3] Not a pretty picture of a man, is it? I bet the believing Gentiles felt about him the way you do this lady. Yet, God was merciful to him. If God can change Saul of Tarsus, changing her is easy peasy. :)
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She doesn’t want to be changed...she likes her self just the way she is.
 
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utilyan said:
The whole point was the challenge that the only reason Job liked God was because God only blessed him with Good fortune.

Job 1

9Then Satan answered the LORD, “Does Job fear God for nothing? 10“Have You not made a hedge about him and his house and all that he has, on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land. 11“But put forth Your hand now and touch all that he has; he will surely curse You to Your face.”

According to some theologies Satan was right, being that God works Job like a puppet and has no choice in the matter.
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No satan was wrong is the point, because Job never cursed God. God proved satan wrong, Regardless of what Job knew or not that was going on behind the scenes, satan walked away with egg on his face by being proved wrong.
 
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OfLivingWaters

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Earth Wind and Fire said:
When He makes her go blind then maybe then I will agree with you. Then she couldn’t screw anyone over anymore.
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Maybe it is you who needs a change of heart. It would seem that you are becoming very bitter and your "Christianity" can not with stand her sin. What exactly is her sin that has you so angry?
 
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OfLivingWaters said:
Christ is giving you increase, I said this once to you. Did that mean increase in knowledge of Him regardless of how you receive it, or increase of spirit? It would seem you have a vile hatred toward Catholics why?
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Again before i discuss catholism, are you or have you been catholic?
 
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