Is Nurse from Maine Selfish or Selfless?

[Salty]

Is Nurse from Maine Selfish or Selfless?

Well, she ain't selfless, since she has a self. And -ish means of, relating to, or being [Merriam Webster]. So since she has a self, and she is of, relating to or being the same self... she must be selfish.

Me thinks that Grammar police should be quarantined for 21 days.....

 

[righteousdude2]

Thank God for Websters and You!

Is Nurse from Maine Selfish or Selfless?

Well, she ain't selfless, since she has a self. And -ish means of, relating to, or being [Merriam Webster]. So since she has a self, and she is of, relating to or being the same self... she must be selfish.

Thank God for Websters and you, ALCOTT! :laugh:

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[righteousdude2]

Yet there is no law stating that she must stay in her home for 21 days, is there?

Ann - I didn't think you were into playing the game of semantics? You and I both know there is no law, just a recommended protocol calling for a minimum of 21 days. I just believe if it were me, I'd certainly want to appease the fear of my fellow Americans, and stay in the house, per the recommendation! Like I said, that is nothing considering it shows she is being a good neighbor! JUst think of all the shopping you could do for Christmas on Amazon and WalMart.com? :smilewinkgrin:

I even believe you'd do the same if it were you that returned from an Ebola nation after treating sick and dying folks! At least, I think you'd do that, in spite of it not being a law per se?

 

[righteousdude2]

Yes, I've served on juries. The courts treated me and my fellow jurors with a modicum of dignity, respect, and concern for our comfort. Which, the best as I can tell the NJ authorities didn't. They just went into panic mode. So, far she hasn't broken any laws and as far as I know is cooperating with the Maine Health authorities. NJ on the other hand was holding her in conditions just short of Alcatraz's Hole. It was done without warning or warrant. Remember, habeas corpus? So, yes, she does have rights.

I certainly don't mean to appear to be presumptuous, but where she was initially held had little to do with the OP. Is she selfish or selfless? And you have not answered that question with all your hypothetical rhetoric! That is the question.

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[robt.k.fall]

Mine is the "My View is" vote. And nothing I've written is hypothetical.
The ham handedness of the NJ authorities got her ticked off. If they had been prepared for some one other than a basket case, she may not be as persnickety as she is now. IOW, after her time in Africa, cable television, showers with "endless" hot water, pizza from Tony's, ect would have felt luxurious.
The last I heard, the State of Maine went to court to enforce her quarantine and lost.

I certainly don't mean to appear to be presumptuous, but where she was initially held had little to do with the OP. Is she selfish or selfless? And you have not answered that question with all your hypothetical rhetoric! That is the question

 

[Jkdbuck76]

If she does present Ebola symptoms, is it wrong to laugh?

 

[annsni]

Ann - I didn't think you were into playing the game of semantics? You and I both know there is no law, just a recommended protocol calling for a minimum of 21 days. I just believe if it were me, I'd certainly want to appease the fear of my fellow Americans, and stay in the house, per the recommendation! Like I said, that is nothing considering it shows she is being a good neighbor! JUst think of all the shopping you could do for Christmas on Amazon and WalMart.com? :smilewinkgrin:

I even believe you'd do the same if it were you that returned from an Ebola nation after treating sick and dying folks! At least, I think you'd do that, in spite of it not being a law per se?

21 days inside a house would drive anyone crazy. I would certainly choose to stay home from the grocery store and the like but to not go biking in a rural area to clear my head? Really? I guess the state would buy an exercise bike that I could use in my basement, right? I mean, after all, they are preventing me from even keeping myself healthy so by rights, if they want me to stay inside, they need to provide alternative means of exercise, correct?

You know what's interesting? This woman is a medically trained professional and I understand she worked for the CDC. She actually knows about this disease, how it's spread and it's effects on the body and she knows that staying inside her house 24/7/21 is not necessary. Remember, she was on the front lines with a disease she has treated so she knows fully what this disease does. She is in the health care field and she is a humanitarian. Do you honestly think she comes back to the US and says "The heck with this. I'm going to stop being careful and go ahead and get everyone infected!"? I just don't think so.

My friend is an infectious disease epidemiologist and she is just shaking her head at the absolute hysteria surrounding this woman. She said that she would comfortably go to her house and have dinner with her - and this is from a woman who intimately knows these diseases as well. Maybe we need to listen to them.

 

[Use of Time]

If she does present Ebola symptoms, is it wrong to laugh?

Do you really need help answering that question?

 

[righteousdude2]

21 days inside a house would drive anyone crazy. I would certainly choose to stay home from the grocery store and the like but to not go biking in a rural area to clear my head? Really? I guess the state would buy an exercise bike that I could use in my basement, right? I mean, after all, they are preventing me from even keeping myself healthy so by rights, if they want me to stay inside, they need to provide alternative means of exercise, correct?

You know what's interesting? This woman is a medically trained professional and I understand she worked for the CDC. She actually knows about this disease, how it's spread and it's effects on the body and she knows that staying inside her house 24/7/21 is not necessary. Remember, she was on the front lines with a disease she has treated so she knows fully what this disease does. She is in the health care field and she is a humanitarian. Do you honestly think she comes back to the US and says "The heck with this. I'm going to stop being careful and go ahead and get everyone infected!"? I just don't think so.

My friend is an infectious disease epidemiologist and she is just shaking her head at the absolute hysteria surrounding this woman. She said that she would comfortably go to her house and have dinner with her - and this is from a woman who intimately knows these diseases as well. Maybe we need to listen to them.

My dear sister, I am not arguing with you, nor do I say your friend doesn't what they are talking about. I just see nothing wrong with erring on the side of caution.

Today the government can take our land through emeninant domain;they can draft bodies to serve in the armed services in time of war. They can make you serve on juries. And these mandates to serve do not give a cats spit what you were doing when called.

I believe you friend knows what they are talking about. Still, most doctors will say they now very little about Ebola, but no one is perfect, and it takes but one oooooops moment to bring problems to you city.

Look until Kaci had here court win today., she demonstrated little regard towards her neighbors or society in general, and that is what America has become?
A nation of haters, defiant, selfish entitled folk who practice NIMBYS.

 

[annsni]

My dear sister, I am not arguing with you, nor do I say your friend doesn't what they are talking about. I just see nothing wrong with erring on the side of caution.

Today the government can take our land through emeninant domain;they can draft bodies to serve in the armed services in time of war. They can make you serve on juries. And these mandates to serve do not give a cats spit what you were doing when called.

I believe you friend knows what they are talking about. Still, most doctors will say they now very little about Ebola, but no one is perfect, and it takes but one oooooops moment to bring problems to you city.

Look until Kaci had here court win today., she demonstrated little regard towards her neighbors or society in general, and that is what America has become?
A nation of haters, defiant, selfish entitled folk who practice NIMBYS.

Can you tell me how biking through a rural area for an hour in gorgeous weather is going to harm anyone? I just had a 100.3 fever and felt like death. Trust me, I didn't want to walk to the bathroom no less go biking and smile at reporters. She has no symptoms. She is not contagious. So how is this harmful?

 

[carpro]

The miltary personnel are subject to military discipline. The Army can do what it wants with its members. The nurse is not. The problem is as usual this administration is playing the situation by ear and does not have a comprehensive plan to deal with returning medical personnel. I guess they planned on American (based) civilian volunteers staying in Africa and not returning home.

There, you have it.

The rest doesn't really matter.

This administration doesn't ever seem to have a comprehensive policy of how to deal with any crises. The problem is, as always, a lack of leadership.

 

[Use of Time]

There, you have it.

The rest doesn't really matter.

This administration doesn't ever seem to have a comprehensive policy of how to deal with any crises. The problem is, as always, a lack of leadership.

Who says there isn't a comprehensive policy? The CDC does have established protocols and ebola is not rampaging through our country. Settle down, this isn't a political issue even though you are stepping all over yourself to try and make it one.

 

[matt wade]

Why don't we start quarantining those with the flu? It's much easier to pass along to others than Ebola. Maybe our so called conservative friends on this board would like a special branch of the military whose responsibility it is to determine which of our citizens should be placed under house arrest because of the medical conditions they have?

 

[Zaac]

Who says there isn't a comprehensive policy? The CDC does have established protocols and ebola is not rampaging through our country. Settle down, this isn't a political issue even though you are stepping all over yourself to try and make it one.

:applause: Some folks just have to take any opportunity to disparage the President. I see very little chance of people who dislike a man so much obeying God and praying for him instead of trying to make him guilty of everything including the Kennedy assassination and the 9/11 WTC attack.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

All this talk about blaming the president is in poor taste, and is making me lose my appetite. I can't even finish mebola Lucky Charms………


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[Squire Robertsson]

Since, I'm the one who used comprehensive first. I'll try to address your remarks. Yes, the CDC has plans on what to do with Ebola. And, yes, on the face of it they seem to be adequate for the job. However, this administration has shown its self lacking in leadership on various occasions. Thus, some find it difficult to place their trust in their actions. The breakdown by the hospital in Texas did nothing to settle people's minds.

Who says there isn't a comprehensive policy? The CDC does have established protocols and ebola is not rampaging through our country. Settle down, this isn't a political issue even though you are stepping all over yourself to try and make it one.

 

[robt.k.fall]

I take comprehensive to mean both the CDC and the Department of Defense would have the same policy. And they don't. However, I can just as easily see the same disconnect happening in a McCain or a Romney administration. And we should be just as critical of them as we are with the current administration.

Who says there isn't a comprehensive policy? The CDC does have established protocols and ebola is not rampaging through our country. Settle down, this isn't a political issue even though you are stepping all over yourself to try and make it one.

 

[Use of Time]

I take comprehensive to mean both the CDC and the Department of Defense would have the same policy. And they don't. However, I can just as easily see the same disconnect happening in a McCain or a Romney administration. And we should be just as critical of them as we are with the current administration.

Most likely.

 

[righteousdude2]

I take comprehensive to mean both the CDC and the Department of Defense would have the same policy. And they don't. However, I can just as easily see the same disconnect happening in a McCain or a Romney administration. And we should be just as critical of them as we are with the current administration.

Of course, "a McCain or Romney administration" is pure speculation? We will never know what they would have done, nor how they would have reacted to the same crises this POTUS has fumbled time after time!

I'd like to think they would have been more decisive, but we will never know, will we robt. k. fall?

 

[robt.k.fall]

Yes, I was speculating. I was trying to defuse accusations of making the situation "political." But, considering how previous Republican administrations have from time to time gone off the tracks in different situations, I think I have grounds for being a bit cynical.

Of course, "a McCain or Romney administration" is pure speculation? We will never know what they would have done, nor how they would have reacted to the same crises this POTUS has fumbled time after time!

I'd like to think they would have been more decisive, but we will never know, will we robt. k. fall?