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Is Obama a "natural born" citizen ?? Is his candidacy constitutional?

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KenH

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Am I understanding the article correctly that under the law back then that if only one parent was a U.S. citizen that unless that U.S. citizen was at least 21 years old when his/her child was born that the child was not a U.S. citizen?
 

Magnetic Poles

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I say we deport John Sidney McCain as an illegal alien. He was born in the Panama Canal Zone. :laugh:

The speculation about Obama is moot, since he was born in Hawaii, definitely a state of the United States when he was born in 1961. His parents could both be from Mars, it wouldn't matter.
 
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LadyEagle

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KenH said:
Am I understanding the article correctly that under the law back then that if only one parent was a U.S. citizen that unless that U.S. citizen was at least 21 years old when his/her child was born that the child was not a U.S. citizen?

From the article
Geraghty defined the concerns most clearly, stating: "If Obama were born outside the United States, one could argue that he would not meet the legal definition of natural-born citizen … because U.S. law at the time of his birth required his natural-born parent (his mother) to have resided in the United States for '10 years, at least [f]ive of which had to be after the age of 16.'"

He then points out Ann Dunham, Obama's mother, was 18 when Obama was born "so she wouldn't have met the requirement of five years after the age of 16."

Geraghty continues: " (Interestingly, apparently there isn't much paperwork on Obama's parents' marriage. 'Obama: From Promise to Power,' page. 27: 'Obama later confessed that he never searched for the government documents on the marriage, although Madelyn (Obama's maternal grandmother) insisted they were legally married.' Also note that Obama's father apparently was not legally divorced from his first wife back in Kenya at the time, a point of contention that ultimately led to their separation.)"
 

KenH

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Realistically, I don't think that any of the anti-Obama folks should get their hopes up that this technicality, even if there is any validity to it at all, will derail Senator Obama's candidacy.
 

LadyEagle

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KenH said:
Realistically, I don't think that any of the anti-Obama folks should get their hopes up that this technicality, even if there is any validity to it at all, will derail Senator Obama's candidacy.

Wouldn't that be something, to go against the Constitution of these United States....

Oh, that's right, Congressman Henry Hyde (R) told us the Constitution is no longer relevent.....
 

KenH

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Magnetic Poles said:
I say we deport John Sidney McCain as an illegal alien. He was born in the Panama Canal Zone. :laugh:

Can we toss out both Senator McCain and Senator Obama from the race and just start over? :laugh:
 

KenH

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Revmitchell said:
What "snide" remark?

What reference to a snide remark? :)

LE deleted it and I deleted my reference to it.

Try to keep up, Pastor Mitchell. This forum can really hop quickly at times. :laugh:
 

Revmitchell

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KenH said:
LE deleted it and I deleted my reference to it.

Try to keep up, Pastor Mitchell. This forum can really hop quickly at times.:laugh:

I guess she has the same question. But apparently I was to quick for you.:laugh:
 

LadyEagle

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I like your idea, Ken, toss out both Obama and McCain and start over. :wavey:

I edited my post and Ken edited his. Ken was pretty quick on the draw to catch it before my edit.....:laugh:
 
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Magnetic Poles

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LadyEagle said:
Wouldn't that be something, to go against the Constitution of these United States....

Oh, that's right, Congressman Henry Hyde (R) told us the Constitution is no longer relevent.....
The residency rules only apply to children born outside the U.S.

From the 14th Amendment:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
 

Revmitchell

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Magnetic Poles said:
The residency rules only apply to children born outside the U.S.

From the 14th Amendment:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

Isnt there a question as to where he was born? Possibly in Kenya.
 

LadyEagle

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So, MP, if he was really born where he says he was born and there is nothing to hide and no question as to him being a natural born citizen, he should show us the goods.....
 
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