Is Obama Anti-Christian?

[HAMel]

Your quote - 'The only President of America to ever bow to another leader. '

Well, I guess you nailed me on that one. Guilty as charged!

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Your quote - 'The only President of America to ever bow to another leader. '

Well, I guess you nailed me on that one. Guilty as charged!

No 'nailing' intended - it was just an incorrect statement being passed around as fact that needed clarification.

At least I didn't post the photo of President Bush bowing his head to some Arab leader to have some kind of medal placed around his neck. It is not the same sort of bow being talked about here.

 

[webdog]

The sad thing is someone could take our Bibles and give us their own slant and take things out of context to justify lying, murder, killing religious enemies, or any number of acts of wickedness. I don't know enough about the Koran to know the passages described on the obvious anti-Muslim website.

Islam is a false religion, but I think we need to be careful that we know what we are talking about before we adopt claims made by other people.

There is a temptation to vent anger on a whole group of people. I think sometimes it would be like if Muslims used Westboro Baptist to build a case against all baptists.

Let's expose error, but let's be sure we don't use error to do so.

The proof is in history. There are many videos on youtube as well. The latest use of this was 9/11

 

[webdog]

So where does that leave us with Gov Romney? His religion is certainly anti-Christ. To be consistent does that mean he ignores all other religions while he is in office, including Biblical Christianity?

Mitt Romney is not the topic of this thread, it is whether Obama is anti- Christian.

Mormon's don't want to saw off the heads of non Mormons, nor would Romney dress is full Islam gear while reading the Quran in perfect dialogue.

 

[Yeshua1]

So where does that leave us with Gov Romney? His religion is certainly anti-Christ. To be consistent does that mean he ignores all other religions while he is in office, including Biblical Christianity?

Gov Rommney is NOT a Christian, by being a strict Mormon, but he will have social views comparable to real Christianity!

president says that he is a Christian, but His christianity by deeds/actions and own words NOT that of biblical christianity!

 

[Yeshua1]

The proof is in history. There are many videos on youtube as well. The latest use of this was 9/11

what we have to realise is that what we call "fringe' islam actually IS the one closest to the views of the "prophet" in the Koran. as we love to quote his early sayings, but they say that the later verses penned by Mohammed superceded the earlier ones !

 

[Jon-Marc]

I have no idea if he is hostile toward Christians, but he is certainly not one. His support of homosexuality proves that. NO truly born again Christian would support any sin--even though we all sin at times.

 

[humblethinker]

NO truly born again Christian would support any sin--even though we all sin at times.

What do you mean by this? Are you saying that while we are accepting sinners in relationship to ourselves we should not support the sin which they habitually feed? I think you would agree. But what are we church people to make of ourselves? The glutton can continue to produce evidence of his sin and yet he is not confronted. There is no shortage of overweight preachers yet I venture to say that not a single parishoner will lovingly confront their pastor. No, we will support them with grace and mercy while at the same time acknowledging, if pressed, that gluttony is a sin and should be refrained from. Yet, don't you think it would be very odd to continuously affirm to your fat pastor that you accept him in relationship to you while you hold his appearance in judgement and contempt? Life is messy. There seems to be a duplicity in church people and I'm just not yet sure how to grapple with this issue. But one thing I've been contemplating lately: If we are going to err then should we not err on the side of grace? Is this not what church people like us do with our pastors and people we find easy to love?

 

[Yeshua1]

What do you mean by this? Are you saying that while we are accepting sinners in relationship to ourselves we should not support the sin which they habitually feed? I think you would agree. But what are we church people to make of ourselves? The glutton can continue to produce evidence of his sin and yet he is not confronted. There is no shortage of overweight preachers yet I venture to say that not a single parishoner will lovingly confront their pastor. No, we will support them with grace and mercy while at the same time acknowledging, if pressed, that gluttony is a sin and should be refrained from. Yet, don't you think it would be very odd to continuously affirm to your fat pastor that you accept him in relationship to you while you hold his appearance in judgement and contempt? Life is messy. There seems to be a duplicity in church people and I'm just not yet sure how to grapple with this issue. But one thing I've been contemplating lately: If we are going to err then should we not err on the side of grace? Is this not what church people like us do with our pastors and people we find easy to love?

We are saying that IF the president wants to claim to be one of us, produce fruit that supports that claim!

For his works and statements evidence other than that, NOT what the Spirit would have him doing for policy and agenda!