Is Obama's Reign Over?

[SRBooe]

You indicated the law - but is the law constitutional?

Yes, and it is applied several thousand times per year.

 

[SRBooe]

I can't believe there are still people stupid enough to obsess over this idiocy!

He was born in the US. That makes him a natural born citizen.
His mother was a natural born citizen. That makes him a natural born citizen.

The only other type of citizen is a naturalized citizen. Someone born in another country of two non-US citizens who immigrates to this country and becomes a naturalized citizen.

My father was a British subject. My mother was a natural born US citizen. In other words, the same as President Obama. I have voted in every election since 1968. If Obama is not a citizen neither am I and every election I have voted in since 1968 is now null and void due to my having voted without being a citizen.

I served my country in the US Army from 1966-1972. I held a Security Clearance. I still hold a Security Clearance. Those clearances, at the level I hold, are only for US Citizens.

If you want to tell me to my face I am not a US Citizen, bring it on. I am an old, disabled man, but you tell me to my face I am not an American, well, I may not be able to whip your fat *** but I guarantee you will know you were in a fight!

I don't like what Obama is doing to this country, but to keep obsessing over this nonsense just makes the rest of us who have valid reasons for not liking his Presidency look as stupid as the "birthers" and equally idiotic "911 truthers."

I'll bet your political discussions are just as enlightening and informative as this one is, huh?

I'll bet your news sources are really helpful in your line of thinking, too.

 

[Salty]

...to this day no one has been able to locate a single nurse or doctor who was present when Obama was born even though $10,000 was offered for this evidence. To this day not one person has come forward to collect this award offered by WorldNet Daily. ...

could be they were offered more money to remain silent? Hmmm


I have one whooper of a question for you anti-birthers:
If the facts came out that actually proved behond a shadow of a doubt that Obama was not born in the US, would you accept it and believe it? Simple yes or no

 

[TCassidy]

I'll bet your political discussions are just as enlightening and informative as this one is, huh?

I'm sorry but you are not making any sense. This is not a political discussion. A person's politics don't change the facts. Politically I am a conservative registered Republican and have so voted in every election since 1968.

I'll bet your news sources are really helpful in your line of thinking, too.

I am not a news junky. I couldn't care less what the talking heads have to say.

 

[TCassidy]

I have a paper copy with orginal seal

And what does that prove? How many times did you move from when you were 2 years old until you were in your late 40s? How many different countries did you live in? How many different households were you a part of?

 

[KenH]

If the facts came out that actually proved behond a shadow of a doubt that Obama was not born in the US, would you accept it and believe it? Simple yes or no

I hope this never comes to pass as I would hate to see what would happen to the fabric of this country if such was proven. Even if it could be proven, it would be better to let President Obama serve out this term and elect Gary Johnson as president in 2012.

 

[TCassidy]

Why haven't any doctors or nurses come forward? How many 90 year old doctors and nurses do you know?

 

[TCassidy]

Question for Salty

Salty, would you believe it if absolute proof was discovered that Jesus Christ was not the Savior, but was a Jewish homosexual and con man? Yes or no.

See how stupid the question is? It won't be proven because it is not true!

 

[Salty]

Salty, would you believe it if absolute proof was discovered that Jesus Christ was not the Savior, but was a Jewish homosexual and con man? Yes or no.

See how stupid the question is? It won't be proven because it is not true!

Absolute proof, yes I would.
Now will you answer my question.

Ken, you did not answer directly, but I fully appreicate your answer - and I basically agree with you.

TCassidy I moved a bare mimium of 10 times from age 2 - age 40, live in at least 2 different countries ect. Yes, and I still have my birth certificate and my DD 214

 

[KenH]

Ken, you did not answer directly, but I fully appreicate your answer - and I basically agree with you.

Okay, sure, I would accept it and believe it.

 

[TCassidy]

Absolute proof, yes I would.
Now will you answer my question.

Absolute proof? Of course.

TCassidy I moved a bare mimium of 10 times from age 2 - age 40, live in at least 2 different countries ect. Yes, and I still have my birth certificate and my DD 214

I moved once when I was three. Moved again when I went into the Army, and again when I married. One last time when I came back to California.

And I never saw my original birth certificate. I orderd a copy and got exactly the same abstract that Obama has made public.

I had a carbon copy of my DD214 that, over the years, became illegible. I ordered a replacement from National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis. It was an actual photostat of the original. It seems the US Government is way behind the technology curve.

 

[Winman]

Why haven't any doctors or nurses come forward? How many 90 year old doctors and nurses do you know?

Obama was born in 1961, a person 30 years old would be 79 years old. There should be several still alive. Many nurses are in their 20's.

I also moved many times as a child, although always within the U.S. and I have a copy of my birth certificate with seal.

If you watched that video, the short form presented by Obama is clearly fake. The greatest evidence is the term "African American". African American is not a race, it is a recent term that started in the 70's. Up until that time the term "Negro" was the official term used. Whoever forged this fake document was so politically correct they could not bring themselves to use the correct term.

There have also been found Hawaiin birth certificates located that were issued after Obama was born in August of '61, but they have a lower number. The births are numbered in chronological order, so this is another serious error on the part of the forgers.

Look, if Obama was truly born in Hawaii in August of 61, why wouldn't he present the long form once and for all to settle this controversy? It makes no sense at all not to make this document public.

 

[Salty]

...Look, if Obama was truly born in Hawaii in August of 61, why wouldn't he present the long form once and for all to settle this controversy? It makes no sense at all not to make this document public.

Other than to keep our minds off important issues.

 

[Winman]

Other than to keep our minds off important issues.

Right. Proving that you qualify to hold the office of President of the United States is not important at all. Anybody should be able to be President and no proof of eligibility should be required. That's why they wrote the qualifications to be President, so they could be ignored.

Intelligent answer.

 

[billwald]

Why didn't the Klan notice this situation when Obama ran for congress?

 

[FR7 Baptist]

If you watched that video, the short form presented by Obama is clearly fake. The greatest evidence is the term "African American". African American is not a race, it is a recent term that started in the 70's. Up until that time the term "Negro" was the official term used. Whoever forged this fake document was so politically correct they could not bring themselves to use the correct term.

The head of the records agency said it's real. Furthermore, Mr. Obama's birth certificate says "African", not "African American". Do you have evidence of other Hawaii birth certificates from that time using the term "Negro"?

There have also been found Hawaiin[sic] birth certificates located that were issued after Obama was born in August of '61, but they have a lower number. The births are numbered in chronological order, so this is another serious error on the part of the forgers.

There could be a number of reasons for that. There is someone who specifically remembers his birth in Hawaii. Click here and go to the bottom.

Look, if Obama was truly born in Hawaii in August of 61, why wouldn't he present the long form once and for all to settle this controversy? It makes no sense at all not to make this document public.

There is no controversy. It is a fact that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.

 

[SRBooe]

I'm sorry but you are not making any sense. This is not a political discussion. A person's politics don't change the facts. Politically I am a conservative registered Republican and have so voted in every election since 1968.I am not a news junky. I couldn't care less what the talking heads have to say.

First off, not making sense is what your first post did. You accuse those who operate off of principles as being stupid, as if following our consitution is not important. Are you serious?

Secondly, talking heads don't report news. That might be the problem here. There are news sources that are not afraid to report news, but they get slammed so hard by this administration and the liberal media that people are getting to be embarrassed to admit reading the reports that come from the non-liberal ones.

Are you so convinced of your own self-rightiousness that you feel the need to insult those who hold to consitutional principles? I don't think that the concern over Obama's non-vetted elegibility is detracting for one tiny issue. It is a separate issue all by itself and is largely ignored. I am still amazed that even our U.S. Supreme Court was "persuaded" not to hear the issue for so long, and that Joe Sixpack was told that he has no grounds to even question whether the "government of, by, and for the people" was operating correctly.

You may confess to being a Republican, but your conservative status is questionable. Conservatives generally take constitutional isses very seriously.

If you really want to say that you don't care about the consitution and such, can you not do it without insulting those who do care?

 

[webdog]

The head of the records agency said it's real. Furthermore, Mr. Obama's birth certificate says "African", not "African American". Do you have evidence of other Hawaii birth certificates from that time using the term "Negro"?

I've seen one...can't remember where off the top of my head.

At any rate, is "African" a race?

There is no controversy. It is a fact that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.

If this is such a simple fact, why has he spent millions trying to keep this simple fact hidden?

 

[TCassidy]

First off, not making sense is what your first post did. You accuse those who operate off of principles as being stupid, as if following our consitution is not important.

I would probably have more respect for your position if you could spell "constitution." No, I said that anybody who gets his information from the internet and doesn't bother to check the facts pass idiocy on to others without understanding it is a lie. It has nothing to do with the constitution. Obama is constitutionally qualified to be president. He is over 35 and a natural born US citizen. It is the people who put on their tinfoil hats and engage in this super conspiracy nonsense who are dishonoring the constitution.

Are you serious?

As a heart attack!

Secondly, talking heads don't report news. That might be the problem here.

Yeah, that's why I don't listen to them.

There are news sources that are not afraid to report news, but they get slammed so hard by this administration and the liberal media that people are getting to be embarrassed to admit reading the reports that come from the non-liberal ones.

Oh really? And who would that be? Fox News? Rush Limbaugh? The Drudge Report. Radical fringe idiots who spout nonsensical vomit and undiscriminating fools lap it up?

Are you so convinced of your own self-rightiousness that you feel the need to insult those who hold to consitutional principles?

Oh stop spouting idiocy. And learn to spell “righteousness“ and “constitutional.” This has nothing at all to do with self righteousness. It has to do with the truth.

I don't think that the concern over Obama's non-vetted elegibility is detracting for one tiny issue.

His “elegibility” (the correct spelling is “eligibility“) has been vetted at the highest possible source and he is constitutionally qualified.

It is a separate issue all by itself and is largely ignored.

The truth has only been ignored by the birthers.

I am still amazed that even our U.S. Supreme Court was "persuaded" not to hear the issue for so long, and that Joe Sixpack was told that he has no grounds to even question whether the "government of, by, and for the people" was operating correctly.

Once again you spout absolute nonsense. SCOTUS didn't hear the issue because they knew the birther nonsense was without merit.

You may confess to being a Republican, but your conservative status is questionable.

Oh stop it. Again you are spouting nonsense.

Conservatives generally take constitutional isses very seriously.

Yes, we do, which is why we refuse to trample on the constitution like the birthers do. And we know how to spell "issues."

If you really want to say that you don't care about the consitution and such, can you not do it without insulting those who do care?

Why do you have to lie about me and my position? Is your position really so weak that you have to lie about me and mine? And why can’t you spell “constitution?”

I think this forum was for Christians who have an interest in the truth. How did you get on here?

 

[webdog]

Thank you spelling police for your exorbitant amount of wisdom! We should all be so thankful for you gracing us with your intellectual prowess! I'm blushing as I type this!