Is Obama's Reign Over?

[DHK]

The U.S. Supreme Court turned aside the appeal that raised doubts on the President's birth, as was expected.

Washington (CNN) -- The Supreme Court has again cast aside an appeal that raised doubts about President Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship, a grass-roots legal issue that has gained little legal or political footing, but continues to persist in the courts.
The justices without comment Monday rejected a challenge from Charles Kerchner Jr., a Pennsylvania man who sought a trial in federal court forcing the president to produce documents regarding his birth and citizenship.

http://www.worthynews.com/top/edition-cnn-com-2010-POLITICS-11-29-scotus-birther-appeal-/

This is an interesting article, especially the interview with CNN

 

[just-want-peace]

Post #39 is indicative that some toes are being stomped!!!:thumbs:

Mis-spellings are ridiculously common on forums - some from lack of knowledge, & some just bad key-board finesse - but to be so emphatic and repetitious in condemnation of said goofs shows that answering the "issue" points is getting real uncomfortable!!!!:BangHead:

 

[TCassidy]

Post #39 is indicative that some toes are being stomped!!!:thumbs:

Mis-spellings are ridiculously common on forums - some from lack of knowledge, & some just bad key-board finesse - but to be so emphatic and repetitious in condemnation of said goofs shows that answering the "issue" points is getting real uncomfortable!!!!:BangHead:

Not at all. He doesn't have any "issue points." I was showing, in my inimitable way, that his research, logical abilities, and capacity for reason was on the same level as his ability to spell rather simple words.

 

[carpro]

And there is no doubt that Obama is a citizen. In fact he has a better claim than McCain. Obama was born in the US of a natural born US citizen.

Not according to his grandmother. :smilewinkgrin:

 

[TCassidy]

Not according to his grandmother. :smilewinkgrin:

Please! Check your facts. His grandmother was talking about the President's father when she said he was born in Kenya, BHO, Senior. When asked about BHO, Jr., she clearly said "Hawaii."

This is a Christian board. Honesty is important.

 

[carpro]

Please! Check your facts. His grandmother was talking about the President's father when she said he was born in Kenya, BHO, Senior. When asked about BHO, Jr., she clearly said "Hawaii."

:laugh: So you say.

You wanted a 90 year old witness and there is only one that spoke , so you change her statement. After it was "clarified" of course.

 

[Crabtownboy]

The birthers really do not care what is true. They just want to cause trouble. The translator made a mistake during the interview and corrected it. But the birthers never mention this ... if they bothered to read the text of the interview:

TRANSLATOR OGOMBE (to McRae): No! Obama was not born in Mombasa! He was born in America!

MCRAE: Wh-whereabouts, whereabouts was he born? I, I thought he was born in Kenya.

TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: No he was born in America, not in Mombasa.

MCRAE: OK. Do you know whereabouts he was born?

TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: (Pause.) Huh?

MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was gonna go by and see where he was born.

(two male voices in background in foreign language speaking at the same time. Mrs. Obama or another woman in background.)

VOICE (background): It was Hawaii.

VOICE OF MRS. OBAMA OR ANOTHER WOMAN (background): Hawaii.

BROTHER TOM (background): Hawaii, yeah?

VOICE OF MRS. OBAMA OR ANOTHER WOMAN (background): Yeah.

TRANSLATOR OGOMBE (background): Yes.

TRANSLATOR OGOMBE (to McRae): Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii.

MCRAE: OK.

TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: Yeah, in 1960 this was Hawaii, where his father, his father was also marrying there. This was Hawaii.

MCRAE: OK.

TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: Yeah.

MCRAE: Was, was, was Mrs. Obama, was sh--was she present? Was, was Mrs. Obama, see I thought you said she was present. Was she, was, was she, was she able to see him being, being born in, in Hawaii?

TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: (pause, silence) Hoh? (pause) Uh, yeah would you please pronounce?

MCRAE: OK I’m sorry. I, I thought she said she was present when he was born. I was—

TRANSLATOR OGOMBE (sounding exasperated): No, no! The, the woman was not present. She was uh not, a what--you see, she was here in Kenya, and Obama was born in America. That is, that’s obvious.

MCRAE: OK.

TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: Because, because the grandmother was married here in Kenya, and Obama was born in America, oh yeah, so his son, the little Obama, was marrying, was marrying, in America, in United States.

MCRAE: Oh, OK, fine. I mean, I--I just, I misunderstood what she was saying. I thought you said she was present when he was born.

TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: No, not present there. The present with me here was tonight. Not present so she can leave. No she was here in Kenya while he, uh, her son, the little Obama, was marrying in America. And, uh, he be present if it--

WOMAN'S VOICE (background): It was in Hawaii.

TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: --was in America there, why are they for, they go, they go, they go to some place, then the present isn't here sir, he was born there in America.

MCRAE: OK. Well tell, tell her I would like to come by and see her when I am there in December. I would love to, uh, meet her personally and pray with her.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=284x549

Here's the conversation:

MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya?

OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?

OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.

MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.

OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.

MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.

OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.

http://current.com/news/90512425_to...randmother-didnt-say-he-was-born-in-kenya.htm

And I fully expect the foolish birthers to deny this transcript as it shows how foolish they are.

Other links:

http://www.cubagreenscreen.com/forum/showthread.php?mode=linear&tid=10371&pid=61339

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2008/12/05/birth_certificate

 

[carpro]

democratic underground ? :sleep:

salon??


translator mistake?/LOL LOL LOL Kinda like unbelievers saying anything they disagree with is "mistranslated". :smilewinkgrin:

Talking in the background???? Getting their stories straight.:tongue3:

 

[Crabtownboy]

democratic underground ? :sleep:

salon??


translator mistake?/LOL LOL LOL Kinda like unbelievers saying anything they disagree with is "mistranslated". :smilewinkgrin:

Talking in the background???? Getting their stories straight.:tongue3:

You just proved my statement about denials. Thanks.

 

[targus]

Did anyone make any sense of the transcript that Crabby posted?

No wonder there is confusion over where Obama was born.

Was Granny present at Obama's birth or not?

You sure can't tell from those transcripts.

 

[targus]

Please! Check your facts. His grandmother was talking about the President's father when she said he was born in Kenya, BHO, Senior. When asked about BHO, Jr., she clearly said "Hawaii."

This is a Christian board. Honesty is important.

So when the translator said "Yes, she was present" it was in answer to a question of "was the mother present when her child was born"?

Wouldn't you think it odd if anyone were to ask of any mother if she were present when her child was born?

What kind of sense does that make?

 

[matt wade]

So when the translator said "Yes, she was present" it was in answer to a question of "was the mother present when her child was born"?

Wouldn't you think it odd if anyone were to ask of any mother if she were present when her child was born?

What kind of sense does that make?

It doesn't make any sense. After reading that transcript, I'm wondering if I am present anywhere!

TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: No, not present there. The present with me here was tonight. Not present so she can leave. No she was here in Kenya while he, uh, her son, the little Obama, was marrying in America. And, uh, he be present if it--

WOMAN'S VOICE (background): It was in Hawaii.

TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: --was in America there, why are they for, they go, they go, they go to some place, then the present isn't here sir, he was born there in America.

:BangHead: