Is Paul Washer a Calvinist?

[AustinC]

Austin as someone who believes what the bible says I have no problem with the text you copied. I believe the whole council of God, unlike some people.

For "WHOEVER CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED." How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: "HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO PREACH THE GOSPEL OF PEACE, WHO BRING GLAD TIDINGS OF GOOD THINGS!" Rom 10:13-15

If as Calvinists say they were already saved why did they have to call on the Lord to be saved?

So by Calvinist logic
the person is saved before they call and
they call before they believe and
they believe before they hear the gospel and
they hear the gospel before it is presented and
the preacher presents the gospel before he is sent.

A problem with determinism in general, given the Calvinist’s view that God determines everything that happens.

A determinist cannot live consistently as though everything he thinks and does is causally determined—especially his choice to believe that determinism is true! Thinking that you’re determined to believe that everything you believe is determined produces a kind of vertigo. Nobody can live as though all that he thinks and does is determined by causes outside himself. Even determinists recognize that they have to act “as if” they had free will and so weigh their options and decide on what course of action to take, even though at the end of the day they are determined to take the choices they do. Determinism is thus an unliveable view. W. L. Craig

LOL, I have bolded your complaint against God and His Sovereignty.

You think that God, according to His Sovereign will, somehow cannot save whom He chooses without the effect being that the chosen one of God calls out to God in repentance and you question God in this process.

You claim you accept all of God's word, yet you reject predestination even while it is taught in scripture, making bogus complaints against "determinism."

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth. In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory. In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.
~ Ephesians 1:3-14

This is another passage regarding God's predestination. Will you continue to reject God's Sovereign right to choose from "dirty rags" whom He wills?

 

[Silverhair]

LOL, I have bolded your complaint against God and His Sovereignty.

You think that God, according to His Sovereign will, somehow cannot save whom He chooses without the effect being that the chosen one of God calls out to God in repentance and you question God in this process.

You claim you accept all of God's word, yet you reject predestination even while it is taught in scripture, making bogus complaints against "determinism."

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth. In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory. In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.
~ Ephesians 1:3-14

This is another passage regarding God's predestination. Will you continue to reject God's Sovereign right to choose from "dirty rags" whom He wills?

You silly silly man. When have I said God does not have the right to do as He pleases. Your the one that does that, remember you always say no free will. You deny God has the ability to do as He pleases. Who are you to question what God can do?

Some would say that you are just being arrogant but since your a determinist and insist that God has decreed all things it can't be you. God is just making you answer this way until or if He is going to change your thinking so that you accept the true meaning of scripture. Salvation is by Grace through Faith. In others words free will.

 

[AustinC]

You silly silly man. When have I said God does not have the right to do as He pleases. Your the one that does that, remember you always say no free will. You deny God has the ability to do as He pleases. Who are you to question what God can do?

Some would say that you are just being arrogant but since your a determinist and insist that God has decreed all things it can't be you. God is just making you answer this way until or if He is going to change your thinking so that you accept the true meaning of scripture. Salvation is by Grace through Faith. In others words free will.

Do you see your twisted thinking? Of course you don't. You assert a philosophical "free-will" and then declare that such a philosophy would mean that God is exerting His Sovereignty by giving man free will to choose what deity would save that said man. If I or anyone else points out your failure to establish the philosophy of free will in the Bible, you create a strawman that somehow I deny God has the ability to do as He wants.
The reality is that I deny your unsupported philosophy of free will, which has nothing to do with denying God anything.

That "some" is you, who is now declaring that posting God's word in both Romans 8 and Ephesians 1, which declares God's predestination of the elect, is an act of arrogance.
Thus you deny the predeterminate will of God and establish man above God as the determinate being who governs over God himself. You then have the unmitigated audacity to claim salvation is by grace, when all you have been arguing for is salvation by merited choice of God over other gods. You make yourself a hypocrite and a liar in one post.

 

[Silverhair]

Do you see your twisted thinking? Of course you don't. You assert a philosophical "free-will" and then declare that such a philosophy would mean that God is exerting His Sovereignty by giving man free will to choose what deity would save that said man. If I or anyone else points out your failure to establish the philosophy of free will in the Bible, you create a strawman that somehow I deny God has the ability to do as He wants.
The reality is that I deny your unsupported philosophy of free will, which has nothing to do with denying God anything.

That "some" is you, who is now declaring that posting God's word in both Romans 8 and Ephesians 1, which declares God's predestination of the elect, is an act of arrogance.
Thus you deny the predeterminate will of God and establish man above God as the determinate being who governs over God himself. You then have the unmitigated audacity to claim salvation is by grace, when all you have been arguing for is salvation by merited choice of God over other gods. You make yourself a hypocrite and a liar in one post.

All that I see coming from you is a great deal of huff & puff. You do not deal with any scripture that i post but you like to cast spiteful accusations and what strawman have I used I am just stating the reality of your determinist view. Your the one that hangs onto Calvin and LBCF. I can not help it if they show you have a flawed theology.

 

[Humble Disciple]

I might not agree with all of Paul Washer's teachings, though I appreciate his work as a missionary:

Washer reports converting to Christianity while studying to become an oil and gas lawyer at the University of Texas at Austin.[6][7] He moved to Peru where he became a missionary for 10 years.[8] In 1988, while in Peru,[9] Washer founded the HeartCry Missionary Society to support indigenous missionaries witnessing to people of their own culture.[10][11]
Paul Washer - Wikipedia

 

[Humble Disciple]

Radical Christians are not people who wear Christian t-shirts. Radical Christians are those who bear fruit of the Holy Spirit... A little boy, Andrew, a Muslim shot him five times through the stomach and left him on a sidewalk simply because he said, 'I am so afraid, but I cannot deny Jesus Christ! Please don't kill me! But I will not deny Him!' He died in a pool of blood, and you talk about being a radical Christian because you wear a t-shirt!
Paul Washer

 

[AustinC]

All that I see coming from you is a great deal of huff & puff. You do not deal with any scripture that i post but you like to cast spiteful accusations and what strawman have I used I am just stating the reality of your determinist view. Your the one that hangs onto Calvin and LBCF. I can not help it if they show you have a flawed theology.

Silverhair, you have not provided one passage that expresses salvation by free will. Not one. What scripture have you posted that I have not addressed?
Second, you have outright contradicted the Bible by denying the predestined work of God in choosing the saints as expressed in Romans 8 and Ephesians 1.

At this point, the only person being spiteful is you, who has openly called me names.
Look in the mirror, Silverhair.

 

[Martin Marprelate]

@Silverhair,
I am now back from holiday. I think it will be best if I start a new thread to carry on our discussion. This I will do tomorrow or Monday.