Is repentance a neccesary part of the gospel...no doubt about it!

[pinoybaptist]

'Cumberland Presbyterian' is the denomination; they're the good ones.

Yeah. I think I remember that church's name. thanks.

 

[pinoybaptist]

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[Jordan Kurecki]

Acts 3:19**Repent*ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
Act 17:30-31**And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to*repent:Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by*that*man whom he hath ordained;*whereof*he hath given assurance unto all*men,*in that he hath raised him from the dead.

The Bible says we must repent. The word repent means a change of mind, heart, or emotion about something, repentance is not ceasing from sin, penance or paying for sin, reformation, or turning over a new leaf. Repentance is simply a change of our heart and attitude towards something.

There are 3 things every person must repent or change their mind, heart, and attitude towards in order to be saved.
The first is Sin

Ezekiel 18:30-31**Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn*yourselves*from all your transgressions(Sins); so iniquity(Sin) shall not be your ruin.Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

Mark 8:36-37**For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

No sin is worth dying and going to hell over.*Jesus said it would be better to cut off your hand than to go into hell with both hands! We must be willing to repent of sin in order to be saved, you must be willing to change your attitude towards sin as something that you desire to be saved from

The 2nd*thing you must repent of is Self

Luke 18:10-14**Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men*are,*extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as*his*eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.I tell you, this man went down to his house justified*rather*than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

Romans 10:3*For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

The Pharisee was self-righteous and had a higher view of himself, the publican admitted his sinfulness before God, which is why he received forgiveness. Many people today are ignorant of the perfect righteousness of Christ and go about to establish their own works based righteousness through religion, or “try to be good and not hurt others” but we are all wicked sinners condemned to die. You must repent of self-righteousness in order to be saved.

The 3rd*thing you must repent of is the Savior.

Jesus Christ is the savior, he is also God. If you believe in a false Jesus and not the one of the Bible you cannot be saved:Religions such as the Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses teach a false Jesus that is not the Jesus of the Bible. Jesus is perfect and sinless because he is GOD!

Consider these verses:
John 8:23-24**And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am*he,*ye shall die in your sins.

The name “I am” is a name for God in the Exodus chapter 20.

John 10:30-33**I and*my*Father are one.Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
So three things we must repent of are Sin, Self, and the Savior.

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[Tom Butler]

Everybody involved in this discussion is doing fine defending their positions. Thought I'd drive by and drop this into the discussion before I resume kibitzing.

I Corinthians 1:21

For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

God does not save independently of means, in this case, the preaching of the gospel.

 

[Iconoclast]

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Pyb...

you are making the same error over and over again......you do not see it as error yet but I will attempt to heal your spiritual sight later on tonight...must work now

 

[pinoybaptist]

Everybody involved in this discussion is doing fine defending their positions. Thought I'd drive by and drop this into the discussion before I resume kibitzing.

I Corinthians 1:21


God does not save independently of means, in this case, the preaching of the gospel.

so, then, it is the gospel that was nailed to the cross ? the gospel that shed blood ? the gospel that rose from the dead ? is it the gospel interceding in heaven right now, and is coming back again ?

 

[pinoybaptist]

Pyb...

you are making the same error over and over again......you do not see it as error yet but I will attempt to heal your spiritual sight later on tonight...must work now

the only way that you can make me turn away from my position to yours is if you can prove, by scripture, that redemption is still ongoing because (1) the cross is NOT a past event, (2) the tomb is not empty, (3) the blood of Christ has not been shed, (4) he is not in a position of intercession now.

Prove that, and you have my apologies and my promise I will cease to be a Primitive Baptist.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

the only way that you can make me turn away from my position to yours is if you can prove, by scripture, that redemption is still ongoing because (1) the cross is NOT a past event, (2) the tomb is not empty, (3) the blood of Christ has not been shed, (4) he is not in a position of intercession now.

Prove that, and you have my apologies and my promise I will cease to be a Primitive Baptist.

He is going to heal your spiritual sight....:laugh: wait for it Tim.....don't be surprised if he takes out a box of snakes with some candles. Then you might hear, "the power of Christ compels you!". Oh your in for a treat....you are the "New Winman " and you need to be converted!:laugh:

 

[pinoybaptist]

He is going to heal your spiritual sight....:laugh: wait for it Tim.....don't be surprised if he takes out a box of snakes with some candles. Then you might hear, "the power of Christ compels you!". Oh your in for a treat....you are the "New Winman " and you need to be converted!:laugh:

I daresay now it is hard to go against Scriptures and the finality, in judgment of the non-elect (whether angels or humans), and the redemption of His own, of Christ's finished work at the cross for all His people and then make the claim that God elected for salvation a definite number of people and wrote their names in His book of life from before the foundation of the world.

 

[Iconoclast]

I daresay now it is hard to go against Scriptures and the finality, in judgment of the non-elect (whether angels or humans), and the redemption of His own, of Christ's finished work at the cross for all His people and then make the claim that God elected for salvation a definite number of people and wrote their names in His book of life from before the foundation of the world.

no one has to go against scripture to understand the truth of what it says both in regards to God and man
I will be able to post in in a couple more hours at about 170 miles to go and then I will offer some scriptures like you requested EWF is hoping that we don't see eye to eye then I have no one to hide behind anymore.
his old school fantasy will disappear

 

[pinoybaptist]

no one has to go against scripture to understand the truth of what it says both in regards to God and man
I will be able to post in in a couple more hours at about 170 miles to go and then I will offer some scriptures like you requested EWF is hoping that we don't see eye to eye then I have no one to hide behind anymore.
his old school fantasy will disappear

wait for a new thread.
I will open up a new one.
Everyone is welcome, but primarily it is you and I.
I will limit myself to 10 pm pst because I need to be in church tomorrow.
see ya.

 

[Iconoclast]

wait for a new thread.
I will open up a new one.
Everyone is welcome, but primarily it is you and I.
I will limit myself to 10 pm pst because I need to be in church tomorrow.
see ya.

okay that sounds like a good plan