Hello savedbymercy and welcome to the BB
You said...........
“1 Pet 2:1 does not say Christ died for everyone. Christ or God may have bought something but only in a providential way and not redemptive as by the blood of Christ. It says nothing about the blood of Christ here.”
Well, here it is........
2 Peter 2:1-2
V.1 ¶ But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
V.2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
As you put it...“Christ or God may have bought something...”: There is no “may” here.
The scripture says.....
“even denying the Lord that bought them”.
Jesus is who they were denying, and the only thing that Jesus “bought” and paid for, was humanity; Paying with His blood.
Now, the reason that I felt the need to use this verse to point out that Jesus died for everyone, is because Calvinism wants to limit the Lord’s atonement to those who accept Him: While this passage clearly says that these men were
“denying Him”.
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You continued with..........
“God bought national israel in a providential and corporate sense from egypt as here Deut 32:6
But many in that nation who came out of egypt were unbelievers. Where they bought ? Yes, were they believers ? Nope."
Here is that verse in context........
Deuteronomy 32:4-6
V.4 [He is] the Rock, his work [is] perfect: for all his ways [are] judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right [is] he.
V.5 They have corrupted themselves, their spot [is] not [the spot] of his children: [they are] a perverse and crooked generation.
V.6 Do ye thus requite the LORD, O foolish people and unwise? [is] not he thy father [that] hath bought thee? hath he not made thee, and established thee?
Isn’t God’s Word beautiful!
Here God is telling His people that even though they were a “perverse and crooked generation”, that He had bought them.
You Calvinists like to spout that your great champions of “Grace”, while at the same time undercutting God’s greatest expression of Grace(unmerited favor), by limiting His atonement.
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Next you said.......
“In the same sense, Christ because of His finished work of redemption has bought the rights of all men but in order to give Eternal Life to as many as the Father gave him Jn 17:2As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
All flesh here means both the elect and non elect, the sheep and goats, the wheat and the tares ! But the design and purpose of this was not to give eternal life to all flesh without exception, but to as many as the Father gave Him.”
Here you are building a straw man, by trying to apply John 17:2, to 2Peter 2:1
John 17:2, is not talking about atonement or redemption at all:
It’s talking about the Lord’s protection of His people..........
John 17:2
“As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.”
This “power” that Jesus had been given over all flesh, is power to protect his elect, from the wicked world’s attempt to prevent them from being saved.
Have you ever wondered why, this wicked Christ rejecting world, hasn’t totally done away with Christianity long ago(by simply killing every Christian & burning every Bible):
The answer is, because Christ has power over all flesh, to prevent wicked men from being able to do this.
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Next you apply the “straw man”, that you built, by saying..........
“Then if we read on down in 2 Pet 2, to verse 12 we find that these false teachers were born into this world to be taken and to be destroyed as if they were nothing but beast vs 12
12 But these [of vs 1], as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
There fate was as the beast. The word made here is the greek word gennao-:
of men who fathered children
a) to be born
b) to be begotten
1) of women giving birth to children”
Here you wrongly apply the “power over all flesh” in John 17:2, to 2Peter 2:1, because you somehow need to explain away the fact that “everybody has been bought”!
The word “bought” in 2 Peter 2:1, does not mean “have power over”: It means “bought”
59 agorazw agorazo ag-or-ad’-zo from 58; TDNT-1:124,19; v
AV-buy 28, redeem 3; 31
1) to be in the market place, to attend it {#Mt 13:44,46 21:12 Mr 11:15 Lu 19:45}
2) to do business there, buy or sell {#Mt 14:15}
3) of idle people: to haunt the market place, lounge there
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Finally you said.......
“So you have given no evidence by that scripture that Christ shed His Blood for those in 2 Pet 2:1"
I don’t have to. This passage speaks for itself!
