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Is this against the law?

evangelist6589

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Like it or not, it's not your call if you are hired or not. Take it for what it is. Best advice would be that you dust off your feet and keep plugging away.

Usually I get sarcasm from you. This post is not sarcastic. Keep up the good work, and I may read and reply to your posts more.
 

Arbo

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Usually I get sarcasm from you. This post is not sarcastic. Keep up the good work, and I may read and reply to your posts more.

Well, that sounded sarcastic...

And I do not recall ever being sarcastic toward you. Maybe you confuse it with honest advice...

After all, advice is what you keep asking for.
 
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Aaron

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I had a interview at a manufacturing plant yesterday. Just about everyone I saw was hispanic, and even the employer told me this during the interview and plant tour. They also said that all shift leaders are hispanic. I am white and would be one of the only ones. I am working hard at trying to find a job and I do not think its fair or right if I get turned down because I am not hispanic. There are plenty of talented white folks looking for work. Employers that cater to hispanics and discriminate against whites are in the wrong. I did apply for the warehouse lead position, but got turned down, and the person I was speaking with yesterday himself said that all leaders are hispanic.
No. It's only illegal if white men do that kind of thing.
 

Winman

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Do you know that in recent years the insurance agency's profits have exceeded the cost of living by three times?

This is false. Insurance companies have one of the lowest profit margins of all businesses, not even in the top 200. The average insurance company makes 3-4% profit, this is a FACT. This is a very reasonable profit margin and not greedy whatsoever. It is true that insurance companies make billions of dollars profit, but they also pay billions for overhead and paying out claims.

For example, Aetna, a very well known insurance company reported 2.83% profit in 2008, 3.47% profit in 2007, and 2.99% profit in 2006. Very reasonable.

Folks should know facts before spouting off unsupported accusations.
 

govteach51

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Once again just your opinion without any documentation. Amazing how you have all the answers. When I taught I saw the American public defrauded by the school board until the union exposed them. When they were exposed they were voted out and the superintendent shortly thereafter. Without the union teachers would have feared for losing their job.

Who legalized the extortion?

I have to agree, without unions, the kids of board members and their friend's kid would be making all A's and would be the valedictorian, and salutatorian of every class. It would be politics like you would believe. The only people who the board would hire would be family and friends. Look, I was part of a teacher's association that called a board president for getting a free swimming pool during a construction project.
 
I had a interview at a manufacturing plant yesterday. Just about everyone I saw was hispanic, and even the employer told me this during the interview and plant tour. They also said that all shift leaders are hispanic. I am white and would be one of the only ones. I am working hard at trying to find a job and I do not think its fair or right if I get turned down because I am not hispanic. There are plenty of talented white folks looking for work. Employers that cater to hispanics and discriminate against whites are in the wrong. I did apply for the warehouse lead position, but got turned down, and the person I was speaking with yesterday himself said that all leaders are hispanic.
Wow, a lot of rabbits running through this thead.

Yes, it is legal. It is illegal to discriminate against you because you are white (or any other race), but they can fail to hire you based on your ability to communicate or lead a group of people.
 

poncho

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Wah Wah Wah....I hate unions. they had a place 100 years ago , but today they are just legal stealing.

If I agree to work for you for $1 per hour, it is nobodies business but ours.

Unions are driving our industry to China....dont you get that?

John

No globalization is driving our jobs to China. Union and non union jobs.
 

gb93433

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This is false. Insurance companies have one of the lowest profit margins of all businesses, not even in the top 200. The average insurance company makes 3-4% profit, this is a FACT. This is a very reasonable profit margin and not greedy whatsoever. It is true that insurance companies make billions of dollars profit, but they also pay billions for overhead and paying out claims.
WalMart is at 5%. I have a policy that is currently paying me 5%. So your numbers do not agree.

For example, Aetna, a very well known insurance company reported 2.83% profit in 2008, 3.47% profit in 2007, and 2.99% profit in 2006. Very reasonable.
Compare that to the cost of living during that same time.

I know from being in business how much my insurance costs have gone up and it is incredible compared to everything else. The number of accidents have gone down too.

Could you give the source of your numbers.
 

gb93433

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No globalization is driving our jobs to China. Union and non union jobs.
Until recently when I hired employees my insurance costs went up almost 3.5 times in 22 years. I have never had an employee who was hurt enough to be on workers comp or disability.
 

seekingthetruth

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Until recently when I hired employees my insurance costs went up almost 3.5 times in 22 years. I have never had an employee who was hurt enough to be on workers comp or disability.

gb, unfortuneately, that is what the socialists in our society want. For everybody to share the wealth, and the costs. Your employees werent hurt, but you are expected to pay for others that were.

It's not right.

John
 

InTheLight

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gb93433

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gb, unfortuneately, that is what the socialists in our society want. For everybody to share the wealth, and the costs. Your employees werent hurt, but you are expected to pay for others that were.
It would help if you educated yourself on workers comp insurance. It does not work like automobile insurance.

All I know is that my insurance rates for exactly the same thing has gone up incredibly. Lawsuits in America have increased insurance costs. Someone sued McDonalds because their coffee was too hot for spilling it while she drove.

I have to charge people like you more to recover my insurance costs. I have a lot more costs but not any more profit. A friend of mine who is a doctor told me that about 2/3 goes to insurance costs.
 

Winman

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Good advice.

In 2008 Aetna's net profit was 4.8%, 2007 it was 6.6%, 2006 it was 6.8% and 2005 it was 7.0%

http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_files/irol/11/110617/proxy/AR_finrpt.pdf
(page 41)

And here is where I got my figures

http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com...187-528165&type=sect&dcn=0001122304-09-000036

By the way, I went to page 41 of the link you posted but did not see the figures you are showing, but I did see the EXACT figures I reported. Perhaps you can show me where you got your figures, I looked several times and did not see them anywhere on that page.
 
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InTheLight

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And here is where I got my figures

http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com...187-528165&type=sect&dcn=0001122304-09-000036

By the way, I went to page 41 of the link you posted but did not see the figures you are showing, but I did see the EXACT figures I reported. Perhaps you can show me where you got your figures, I looked several times and did not see them anywhere on that page.

The numbers you cited are earnings per share expressed in dollars; my numbers are net profit as a percentage of revenues. My numbers are the profit margins, yours are not.

The formula is net income divided by revenues. Example (from your link): In 2008 you would divide $1,384.1 by $30,950.7 which gives 4.47%.

(The link I gave did not go back to 2008. I got 4.8% profit margin for 2008 from another source.)
 

Winman

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The numbers you cited are earnings per share expressed in dollars; my numbers are net profit as a percentage of revenues. My numbers are the profit margins, yours are not.

The formula is net income divided by revenues. Example (from your link): In 2008 you would divide $1,384.1 by $30,950.7 which gives 4.47%.

(The link I gave did not go back to 2008. I got 4.8% profit margin for 2008 from another source.)

You might be correct. Nevertheless, insurance companies make very small profits compared to many other industries, nothing outrageous or greedy whatsoever.

Overall, the profit margin for health insurance companies was a modest 3.4 percent over the past year, according to data provided by Morningstar. That ranks 87th out of 215 industries and slightly above the median of 2.2 percent.

http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/flowchart/2009/08/25/why-health-insurers-make-lousy-villains

Insurance companies are not the folks running up the cost of health-care, their profits are very modest. They make good "bad guys" though.
 

seekingthetruth

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It would help if you educated yourself on workers comp insurance. It does not work like automobile insurance.

All I know is that my insurance rates for exactly the same thing has gone up incredibly. Lawsuits in America have increased insurance costs. Someone sued McDonalds because their coffee was too hot for spilling it while she drove.

I have to charge people like you more to recover my insurance costs. I have a lot more costs but not any more profit. A friend of mine who is a doctor told me that about 2/3 goes to insurance costs.

Of course it does.

The more the insurance has to pay out, the more they charge.

And again, you couldnt have just said what you had to say without saying i am "uneducated"

Typical Calvinist arrogance.

John
 

gb93433

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The more the insurance has to pay out, the more they charge.
Not always. They may refuse to insure you.

Do you know what an Experience Modification Rate is? My auto insurance does not have a modifier even close to anything I had with Workers Comp.
 
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