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Is This an "Invitation to Salvation?"

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Lou Martuneac, Jul 27, 2007.

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Is James 4:7-10 an evangelistic “invitation to salvation?"

Poll closed Aug 10, 2007.

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    18 vote(s)
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  3. I am not sure

    2 vote(s)
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  1. EdSutton

    EdSutton New Member

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    Not 'required' to 'get' saved? Sure about that??
    Might wanna' reword that.

    Ed
     
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  2. EdSutton

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    Yes, I really did enjoy that, and much enjoyed meeting you as well. But more than about anything, I really, really, really enjoyed getting out of those 'Bib overalls'! :laugh: :laugh:

    Ed
     
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  3. npetreley

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    I don't know what "faith" you have, but it isn't Christianity. You belong on some new age weird wiggy mojo board, not on Baptist Board.

     
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  4. Amy.G

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    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
     
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  5. Allan

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    :laugh: :laugh: You and I might disagree on some things (ok, many things) but you and I BOTH agree here :laugh: :laugh:
     
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  6. Allan

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    Kinda hard to be true when scripture bluntly declares it to be a lie:

    Faith IS NOT a work.

    EDITED IN >>> And yes it is the verb 'pisteuo' of the Present, Active, Participle. Therefore, according to you (from your post) the term 'believe' spoken of in here is synonmous with "Faith". Your exact quote below:
     
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  7. TCGreek

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    You have made no attempts to address this issue and why you need to give a full meaning of pistis, and not pick and suit to your ends.
     
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  8. TCGreek

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    You have made no attempts to refute that "coming to the Lord" and "believing in Him" involve "submitting" and "surrendering."
     
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  9. TCGreek

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    You have made no attempts to address the question of Why is it you can use of texts to disprove James 4:7-10 and LS, but others can use other texts to defend LS.
     
    #49 TCGreek, Jul 29, 2007
  10. skypair

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    NOW YOU'RE TALKING!! Preach it, brother!! Leave and receive regeneration and faith!

    Yeah! That's what I been talkin' about! Salvation conditioned on repentance!

    skypair
     
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  11. skypair

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    Hey all,

    Isn't the question of whether James 4:7-10 is a salvation message or not resolved in the first verses of James? Jas 1:1-2 -- "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. 2 My brethren,..."

    I find it even more interesting that James was THE first book written after Christ died and was, therefore, very directed toward the Jews and still very oriented toward works (as we see was the case before the Jerusalem council in Acts 15 -- the dispute over circumcising the Gentiles not having yet been resolced.).

    I believe that for MacArthur to analyze Jas 4:7-10 as he does is to take a pre-council, pre-"what are we going to do with the Gentiles" approach. I find it doubly puzzling that he would take a "works" approach regarding the saved and yet disavow "works" (belief, sinner's prayer) as a condition of regeneration and salvation!

    skypair
     
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  12. Faith alone

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    Where was this grace conference?

    Thx,

    FA
     
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  13. Lou Martuneac

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    Grace Conference

    Hi FA:

    This is the link to the Grace Conference.


    LM
     
    #53 Lou Martuneac, Jul 30, 2007
  14. Faith alone

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    Lou,

    Thx. I've emailed their contact # so that I'll be reminded about it for next year.

    FA
     
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  15. mmetts

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    John MacArthur is an excellent teacher and I believe he is dead on in the passage referring to sinners. I won't answer your first question because I think you are baiting with it on a cheap point.
     
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    Amen HoG. :applause:
     
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    I do not agree that there is more than one gospel. But if there is more than one, there's only one that matters. Pick one and call it THE gospel, but choose carefully. As Paul said, if anyone preaches ANY OTHER GOSPEL, let him be accursed.

    Add gospels at your own peril, and be accursed.
     
    #60 npetreley, Jul 31, 2007
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