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Brother Bob said:If you are walking down the broad road of sin and repentance leads you in a different direction towards God, how can one not know you have to "turn from sin" and go a different way.
It is hard to overcome all the earlier theologians like Calvin, Spurgeon, Whitefield, Westminister confession of faith.
George Whitefield : Repentance.
(Since that was such a long post up there, I will select small excepts to show that Whitefield also taught repentance to mean a forsaking of sin.)
" You, therefore, who have been sweaeres and cursers; you, who have been harlots and drunkards; you, who have been thieves and robbers; you, who have hitherto followed the sinful pleasures and diversions of life, let me beseech you, by the mercies of God in Christ Jesus, that you would no longer continue therein, but that you would forsake your evil ways, and turn unto the Lord. For he waits to be grascious to you, he is ready, he is willing to pardon you of all your sins: But do not expect Christ to pardon you of sin when you rin to it, and will not abstain from coplying with the temptations. But if you will be persuaded to absstain from evil and choose the good, to return to the Lord and repent of your wickedness, he has promised he will abundantly pardon you, he will heal your backslidings, and will love you freely.
John Wesley's therapeutic understanding of salvation
Encounter, Summer 2002 by Ayers, Jeremy
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.In "On Working Out Our Own Salvation," Wesley expands the meaning of repentance to include a host of attitudes and activities (e.g., restitution, seeking forgiveness, and almsgiving).68 This illustrates, I think, that repentance serves as the threshold, or turning point, from sinfulness to godliness
Spurgeon
This one is from Spurgeon's sermons, Volume II.
Turn Or Burn
I.In the first place, my hearers, let me endeavor to explain to you the nature of the turning here meant.....
Ah! My hearer, it is not thy promise of repentance that can save thee; it is not thy vow, it is not thy solemn declaration, it is not the tear that is dried more easily than the dew-drop by the sun; it is not the transient emotion of the heart, which constitues a real turning to God. There must be a true and actual abandonment of sin, and a turning unto righteousness in real act and deed in every day life. Do you say you are sorry, and repent, and yet go on from day to day, just as you always went? Will you now boy your heads, and say, "Lord, I Repent," and in a little while commit the same deeds again? If you do, your repentance is worse than nothing, and shall but make your destruction yet more sure; for he that voweth to his Maker, and doth not pay, hath committed another sin, in that he hath attempted to deceive the Almighty, and lie against God that made him. Repentance, to be true, to be evangelical, must be a repentance which really affects our outward conduct.
John Calvin;.
IN WHAT SENSE IS REPENTANCE THE PRIOR CONDITION OF FORGIVENESS? a Now the hatred of sin, which is the beginning of repentance, first gives us access to the knowledge of Christ, who reveals himself to none but poor and afflicted sinners, who groan, toil, are heavy-laden, hunger, thirst, and pine away with sorrow and misery b(a) [ Isaiah 61:1-3; Matthew 11:5, 28; Luke 4:18]. Accordingly, we must strive toward repentance itself,
Westminster Confession of Faith
What is repentance? Let me read to you from the Westminster Confession of Faith, a document that comes to us from the seventeenth century: "By [repentance] a sinner, out of the sight and sense not only of the danger, but also of the filthiness and odiousness of his sins, as contrary to the holy nature and righteous law of God; and upon the apprehension of his mercy in Christ to such as are penitent, so grieves for, and hates his sins, as to turn from them all unto God, purposing and endeavoring to walk with him in all the ways of his commandments. . . yet [repentance] is of such necessity to all sinners, that none may expect pardon without it. As there is no sin so small that it deserves damnation; so there is no sin so great that it can bring damnation upon those who truly repent. Men ought not to content themselves with a general repentance, but it is every man's duty to endeavor to repent of his particular sins, particularly" (Westminster Confession of Faith, chapter XV, sections II, III, IV).
The only proper, scriptural response of a spiritually bankrupt sinner walking down the "broad road of sin" (one sin would be sufficient, Bob) seeking salvation, would be to acknowledge his lost condition and need for a Savior and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved. (Matt. 11:28, John 3:16, Romans 1:17, Romans 4:16, Romans 10:8, Gal. 3:11, Ephesian 2:8,9, Heb. 11:6, Colossians 2:13) Complete pardon and forgivness of all sins is promised through faith alone in Christ. Sanctification always comes after the Holy Spirit indwells the believer.
(Colossian 2:6) "As you have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in Him."
(2Timothy 2:19) "Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity."
Like David Cloud, your definition of repentance is not God's.
Our measuring stick of truth is the Word of God, therefore we must filter all writings and preaching of men through Holy writ. Sound doctrine comes from line upon line, precept upon precept. I am not impressed with "thus sayeth Spurgeon, Calvin, or Westminister Creed".
(Act 5:29) "Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men."
Carrierwave~