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That question indicated a misunderstanding of Jesus' teaching of the kingdom of Israel, even though he had spent the previous weeks "speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God." Seems they thought he had omitted teaching about restoring Israel. The needed the Holy Spirit to give them understanding, & that took years for them to understand ".... the mystery of Christ) 5 which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 6 that the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel."

We tend to think that it's common knowledge that Israel rejected the Apostles' preaching, was destroyed in AD 70, & has continued under judgment awaiting restoration.
However -
The people of Israel welcomed the Gospel & repented in their thousands throughout the Acts period. Vastly more than Elijah's 7,000. Zechariah prophesies that 1/3 of the people will be saved (Zec. 13), while John sees 144,000 firstfruits of Israel. (Rev. 7 & 14.)

Most fail to divide Matthew 24 at that point, as if the preceding verses applying to "this generation" that rejected Jesus applied to the Israelite race until the last day.

Peter specifically rejects the popular understanding of Rev. 20 of a future millennium & says it is an indefinite Gospel period during which God is longsuffering allowing time for sinners to repent. Seems John had his visions before Peter died.

For the Jews who rejected their Messiah - "this generation" the day of the Lord was fast approaching. I'll continue in another post by quoting what I wrote before.

 

There are no difficulties for God.

 

That post was is in -
What do Preterists believe about 2 Peter 3

 

Depends.

 

Except Paul and Jesus NEVER stated that God was done dealing with national israel, but put that on hold until the end of this age!

 

IMO the 144,000 will be called out of national Israel. The promises to Israel are to redeemed Israel (not all Israel is Israel).

 

Since we do not know the day of the rapture it is impossible for anyone to claim to know the dates of the rest. Just because we know of events leading up to it does not in any way know the times or the seasons. Your premise if faulty.

 

IMO there seems to be a movement away from the pre-trib rapture in the overall splintering of the dispensational theory of the last days..

Questions like: Will the church go through the tribulation had cutsie answers like - will the bridegroom beat up the bride before the wedding?
Answer: No but perhaps the Tribulation is God's method of dividing the sheep from the goats.

Personally - as a former pre-tribber I am now undecided.

 

You are seriously mistaken.

Paul said the Jews were & are welcome to repent & come to Jesus for salvation. No-one who comes in faith will be refused.

Nor was Jesus wrong when he said to the Jews -

Mat. 21:43 43 ‘Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.​

which was fulfilled by the redeemed believers formerly Gentiles, strangers -

1 Peter 2:8 ..... They stumble because they disobey the message – which is also what they were destined for.
9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. 10 Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.​

 

The 144,000 are firstfruits, who were redeemed, sealed & protected from the wrath against this generation.

Rev. 14:And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 3 and they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. 5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

7:And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3 saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. 4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.​

Revelation was written for its readers, John's companions in tribulation. It applies to the first C Christians, before the destruction. Jesus prophesies their safety & protection from the four winds -

Mat. 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 so likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.​

Clearly not referring to the heaven up above, gathering dead believers, but the land & people under judgment. The signs of God dwelling on earth with his people - the temple and Jerusalem - was about to be destroyed, & true believers were led safely from the city.

And they join the great multitude of redeemed -

Rev. 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude ....​

 

No of course He wasn't wrong, you know that - He also prophesied that the Gentile dominance would have its limitation:

Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

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Do those references say that Israel will then be restored by the return of Jews to the promised land?

Are the times of the Gentiles & the fulness of the Gentiles defined in Scripture?

Is there any New Covenant prophecy that "Jerusalem that now is" will become an earthly focus for "Israel" aka the redeemed people of God

25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. 27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband. 28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. 29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. 30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. 31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.​

Note how Paul summarises Romans -

15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers: 9 and that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name. 10 And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his people. 11 And again, Praise the Lord, all ye Gentiles; and laud him, all ye people. 12 And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust. 13 Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.​

I see nothing in the New Covenant Scriptures to interpret the promises to Israel as referring to the carnal nation in the Middle East, nor as European Jews claiming Abrahamic descent.

 

I said earlier that the promises to Israel are to redeemed Israel which in the future shall be called out of secular Israel.

The are virtually hundreds of unfulfilled promises to Israel which no amount of allegorical redefinition can satisfy.

 

yes, and those are the natural Jews that are to be saved at the time of the Second Coming of Christ!

 

I have changed to being Historical premil now, as iy seems that the second coming and rapture are describing same event...