Israel's Situation

That's no different than today. I am fortunate to have a few friends who are Jewish who ended up coming to faith in Jesus. To do so, they faced rejection from their families for several years until their families realized that faith in Jesus was not a rejection of them or even their faith.

 

satan is the one that spoke to Muhammed in the cave, same way he spoke to Adam amd Eve, and Joseph Smith!

 

How do you know this? Mohammad could have imagined the whole thing or just made it up. There's nothing in the Quran that is of extra-human origin.

As far as Genesis is concerned, the serpent only spoke to Eve. The idea that the servant spoke to Adam is your embellishment. Adam heeded the voice of his wife (Genesis 3:17).

Joseph Smith, Jr. could never get his story straight. If he truly had a vision, he couldn't keep it straight.

 

Israel today relies on its army and the "iron dome", not on God. The Third Temple (Ezek.40) will be built before the beginning of the 70th week of Daniel (Dan.9). At this time, Israel will have neither army, no "iron dome", "neither barres nor gates" (Ezek.38:11).

 

map who says they dont rely on God?

 

They are publicly burning NT books. One of the cities of Israel is the unofficial capital of sodomites around the world. God will punish this people for such wickedness. Jerusalem will be destroyed, and Israel will face another scattering.

 

No. It is your ignorance that manifests itself. You don't know what the Scripture says about it.

 

which cannot be blamed for all of Israel anymore than it can be blamed for all of America. Me thinks you have another agenda not mentioned here.

 

So the teaching of Islam agrees with Jewish teaching! Both are fighting the living God revealed in Jesus.

 

Jews and Moslems have this in common.



They both need the Lord Jesus Christ. More than they need bombs or rockets or iron domes or land or anything else.

 

We need to clarify our understanding of Israel in prophecy, in particular, does prophecy concerning Abraham & his descendants continue after the coming & saving work of his Seed, the LORD Jesus Christ who secured the promises to Abraham?

Is the NATION of Israel a continuing prophetic entity after Jesus had completed the work given him, fulfilled all prophecy, redeemed Israel and commissioned the Gospel for all nations, or are the PEOPLE Israel the community of the redeemed?

Is the present nation of Israel there, claiming the promised land the earthly people of God, fulfilling prophecy? And should Christians support the nation of Israel.

 

The nation occupying the promised land is not the Israel of the promise. The promise is for Abraham's seed who live in faith as well as the gentiles who have been grafted into that same faith. This is also called the Church, the Body of Christ.

At present, unredeemed Jews are fighting with unredeemed Palestinians, but redeemed Palestinians are also suffering greatly under the oppression. As believers, we support the redeemed, children of the promise, from every nation tribe and tongue. What is happening in Israel today is a tragedy as two godless groups fight for land that God has reserved for His redeemed people. Meanwhile the redeemed suffer under both godless groups.

 

Scripture says that Israel's rebirth as a nation began in 1948. God determined 70 weeks for Israel (Dan.9:24). And the last 70th week is still in the future.

 

Please provide the scripture that says Israel's rebirth as a nation was to begin in 1948. It seems you are projecting the Bible onto the present and then you are finding prooftexts to fit your projection.

 

Yes, that's right. But, you perceive the Scripture as "the word of men" (1Thess.2:13), and I perceive it as "a more sure word of prophecie" (2Pet.1:19), i.e. "(as it is in trueth) the word of God" (1Thess.2:13). Therefore, I see a more complete picture of events and their exact chronology.