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Israel's Situation
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After the Temple Mount was captured in the Six Day War, Moshe Dayan returned it to the custody of the Muslims. Why shouldn't they continue possessing it?
Who are the "raging heathens?"
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heathen
[ hee-thuhn ]
Disparaging and Offensive.
noun, plural hea·thens, hea·then.
1. (in historical contexts) an individual of a people that do not acknowledge the God of the Bible; a person who is neither a Jew, Christian, nor Muslim; a pagan.
2. Informal. an irreligious, uncultured, or uncivilized person.
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Muslims are not, categorically, "heathens."
Islam is THE religion of Satan!
Satan worships God (Allah) through the teachings of the Quran?
Allah is Satan!
atpollard
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Satan encourages men to worship beasts through false prophets.
Revelation 16:13 [NASB]
13 And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs;
Revelation 19:20 [NASB]
20 And the beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone.
Revelation 20:10 [NASB]
10 And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
is Allah God, as He denies that Jesus was his Son, denies that he was crucifed and resurrected!
atpollard
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Technically true, but the Palestinian rioters may be:
... since we ALL know that Islam is a religion of peace.
(ask the Coptic Christians in Egypt or the Arminians from Turkey that are all "resting in peace")
You, in your stated position, Satan worships Allah (aka Satan) = Satan worships Satan.
Very strange.
Allah is simply Arabic for "God." It is a generic name, just like the English word "God."
I have friends who are Christian missionaries who work with Muslims and they use the word "Allah" to describe the Christian God, especially since they are often speaking Arabic as they discuss religious matters.
Of course, you can say that Muslims mean something different than Christians mean when they say "God," and that may well be true. But many "Christians", "Baptists" and "Nationalists" talk about "God" and it is clear to me that they are not speaking of the God Who revealed Himself to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and then ultimately through Jesus.
Context and meaning are everything, not the language in which the word "God" is spoken.
"Allah" is simply Arabic for "God." Nothing more, nothing less. You are confusing a word with the teachings of Islam.
Potentially true. Also, Israelis might also be under the same standard. Many Israelis are thoroughly secular.
Generally, it is true that Islam is a religion of peace, but there are elements of Mohammad's teachings that can be used for conquest and encourage contempt for persons outside Islam. It's a similar radicalization that occurs in Christian nationalism. It is an expression of human sinfulness.... since we ALL know that Islam is a religion of peace.
(ask the Coptic Christians in Egypt or the Arminians from Turkey that are all "resting in peace")
'The Jewish Foundation of Islam' (1933) by Charles Cutler Torrey
(Apostate Judaism, mother of harlots)
Excerpts:
“Unquestionably the first impression gained by a reader of the quran Koran is that Muhammad Mohammed had received the material of his new faith and practice mainly from the Jews of the Hijaz. On almost every page are encountered either episodes of Hebrew history, or familiar Jewish legends, or details of rabbinical law or usage, or arguments which say in effect that Islam is the faith of Abraham and Moses.....”
“These facts, if taken by themselves, would obviously indicate that the Arabian prophet's religious education had been thoroughly Jewish.....”
“'This quran quranic Koranic teaching is Gnostic,' or 'This is Manichaean'-in our dense ignorance of the type of Christianity that was known in the Hijaz, and especially, the type of Judaism that was actually present in Mekka in muhammad Mohammed's time, and from which we know him to have derived such a very large proportion of what we find in the quran Koran......”
“....there is no clear evidence that muhammad Mohammed had ever received instruction from a Christian teacher, while many facts testify emphatically to the contrary; and that, on the other hand, the evidence that he gained his Christian material either from Jews in Mekka, or from what was well known and handed about in the Arabian cities, is clear, consistent, and convincing....”
“...The fact of the Israelite city of Khaibar, "the richest city of the Hijaz," is one very significant item among many. Such a civilization is not produced in a short time. Native Arab tribes "converted" in the manner supposed would have been certain, we should imagine, to welcome and accept the prophet of their own number who promised them a truly Arabian continuation of Judaism adapted to their own special needs, while based squarely on the Hebrew scriptures. But the Jews of Mekka, Medina, and the rest of the Hijaz knew better, and would not yield an inch....I have thus far been speaking mainly of the great number of Arabs professing the Israelite faith, in muhammad Mohammed's time.....”
“....The quran Koran repeatedly speaks of "the children of Israel" as the most favored people on earth-up to the time of Islam; and in addressing them the prophet always reminds them that they know their scriptures.....”
“Far more important, however, is the testimony contained in the quran Koran. The Israelite tribes with their rabbis, their books, sacred and secular, their community of faith and action, and their living contact with the past, are there; they are no phantom. All through the quran Koran there is evidence of a Jewish culture, which muhammad Mohammed greatly admired, and of Jewish learning, which he very imperfectly assimilated.”
Is the Yahweh of the Jews same as Allah of the Muslims?
Is Judaism a false religion or not?
<crickets>....what I thought.
Reminder, your holy people the Jews killed Yahweh in the flesh.
The Yahweh of the OT scriptures is God!
Allah of the Koran denies Jesus is God, was crucified, and resurrected... Allah is NOT Yahweh of the Bible!
NOT saying that unsaved Jews are heaven bound, but the God in their OT is indeed Yahweh!
Scott Downey
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Many Jews in Jesus day were also not of the Father God, they were born according to the flesh, not according to the Spirit, and so then did not believe in Christ.
Jesus told them exactly who they were, and that their deeds were evil.
God has always promised to save a remnant of the Jews and so then some believed in Christ.
Jesus told them exactly who they were, and that their deeds were evil.
God has always promised to save a remnant of the Jews and so then some believed in Christ.
Yes, I agree.
The God (Allah) described in the Quran is not described rightly. I think we are now essentially saying the same thing. The Quran is based off of Judaism and the influence of Christianity, but it is a major aberration from good doctrine. There is a true sense that Islam's God is referring to the God of Abraham, but it is not a trustworthy guide to knowing that God.
Just a note, non-Christian Jews do not have a "New Testament," so they don't have an "Old Testament" (aka OT).