J. Macarthur on John 3:16

If he was on bb, I would take him up on it.
There are texts for a positive predestination that the foreknown elect are predestined to be conformed to the image of the Son.
There is not one text saying God actively predestined anyone to hell.
I do not change the wording if the scriptures do not give a reason for such a change.

 

Yep. It happens on this board often. Some posters are prolific in their attempts. That is why I seldom participate in these threads anymore.

 

As do all Catholics on paper.

 

Really? The catechism has nothing to do with Catholic beliefs...on paper?

Come on, George, let's be serious here.

 

An alcoholic just starting DTs has the "free will" to either suffer through a long, painful withdrawal or to grab another beer and quickly satisfy his cravings and flood his pleasure centers. As an alcoholic, it is in his "nature" to make one choice over the other. There is no NEED for anyone to come and pour beer down his throat to force him to drink.

Sin entered the world through one man, Adam, and all men became sinners - slaves to our sin. We are free to do whatever we want ... and as fallen men we want to sin.

The "folly" is claiming that all of the drunks really want to choose DTs rather than the 'buzz' of alcohol.

[Proverbs 9:17-18 NASB] "Stolen water is sweet; And bread eaten in secret is pleasant." But he does not know that the dead are there, That her guests are in the depths of Sheol.

 

I embrace the teaching of reprobation.
Perhaps you can show what you claim is the same degree of biblical support.

 

Does not mean that God intended to save all though!

 

They disagree with Hyper Calvininism!

 

Mainstream Calvinist, as per the Confessions, would be the Infra view!

 

Claims without biblical support provide obfuscation. What John Macarthur's understanding indicates is God does indeed love all mankind, and thus the views of the posting Calvinists do not reflect the views of some Calvinists.

1 Timothy 2:4 says God desires all people to be saved. So once again the claims of the posting Calvinists is shown to be unstudied and unbiblical.

 

And 1 Timothy 2:6 says Christ laid down His life as a ransom for all, so God did indeed provide the means of salvation for the whole world, all mankind, for those to be saved and those never to be saved. 2 Peter 2:1.

 

Clearly you and God must be universalists, based on your claims.

 

Are you a follower of Barth, a Christian Universalist then?

 

He seems to have read Barth!

 

LOL, the Calvinist that says others do not understand Calvinism, yet makes claims inconsistent with Calvinists, now pretends he cannot read. Christ dying for those never to be saved is claimed by this Calvinist to mean everyone is saved. I kid you not...

 

Yet another Calvinist that pretends he cannot read, claiming Christ dying for those never to be saved means everyone is saved. I kid you not...

 

John 3:16 teaches God loves mankind in this way, He gave His uniquely divine Son so that everyone believing into Him shall not perish but have eternal life. Many Calvinists including John Macarthur, apparently hold this view. Does this make John a 4 pointer with Dr. Wiersbe?

 

Nope, as Dr mac still holds that God intended to have Jesus death provide definite salvation towards his own!

 

So Jesus death brought reconciliation between the lost sinner in hell and the father?

 

So, you don't deny being a universalist...