Japan may be facing a shortage of pastors

[John of Japan]

I'll let you hide where you want but you shouldn't need to if you know the truth.

No need to be caustic.

 

[John of Japan]

It may be that the Japanese need to examine the Evangelical Christian-Baptist paradigm instead of the Anglo-American in pastoral training.

That may be true, but first you have to have students, and that means soul winning--on the wane in Japanese churches.

In the independent Baptist movement there, the BMM Bible school I taught at went under for lack of students. I understand that the BBFI and BIMI schools are still going, but I don't know how many students they have. Schools in other traditions are shrinking.

 

[1689Dave]

No need to be caustic.

Dispensationalism along with Pentecostalism is the false prophecy of today. Here's Hal Lindsey speaking for your camp.

Says Lindsey; "The prophecies can be pieced together to make a coherent picture, even though the pieces are scattered in small bits throughout the Old and New Testaments.

Hal Lindsey," 'The Late Great Planet Earth' 1970 (Chapter 4) *Paradigms of Paranoia: The Culture of Conspiracy By Samuel Chase Coale

 

[Squire Robertsson]

That may be true, but first you have to have students, and that means soul winning--on the wane in Japanese churches.

In the independent Baptist movement there, the BMM Bible school I taught at went under for lack of students. I understand that the BBFI and BIMI schools are still going, but I don't know how many students they have. Schools in other traditions are shrinking.

At least in the States, the emigre EC-B brotherhood (related to the Unregistered faction) does not rely on "Bible colleges" to educate their preachers and pastors. Instead, they use a system of conferences over a weekend or for a week to educate them. These are based on what I term the local "presbytery".

 

[John of Japan]

Dispensationalism along with Pentecostalism is the false prophecy of today. Here's Hal Lindsey speaking for your camp.

Says Lindsey; "The prophecies can be pieced together to make a coherent picture, even though the pieces are scattered in small bits throughout the Old and New Testaments.

Hal Lindsey," 'The Late Great Planet Earth' 1970 (Chapter 4) *Paradigms of Paranoia: The Culture of Conspiracy By Samuel Chase Coale

This is a fellowship thread. You are not fellowshipping. I am not going to discuss eschatology with you. Please go away.

 

[John of Japan]

At least in the States, the emigre EC-B brotherhood (related to the Unregistered faction) does not rely on "Bible colleges" to educate their preachers and pastors. Instead, they use a system of conferences over a weekend or for a week to educate them. These are based on what I term the local "presbytery".

I get it now. I know of a church planting movement in Africa doing it that way successfully.

That's kind of what I did in Yokohama--a local church approach. I tried something similar in Hokkaido, but the brethren didn't go for it.

 

[1689Dave]

This is a fellowship thread. You are not fellowshipping. I am not going to discuss eschatology with you. Please go away.

Thanks for dropping out, but remember Paul says;

“Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.” 2 Timothy 4:2 (KJV 1900)

 

[John of Japan]

Thanks for dropping out, but remember Paul says;

“Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.” 2 Timothy 4:2 (KJV 1900)

"But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin" (1 John 1:7).

 

[1689Dave]

"But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin" (1 John 1:7).

Dispensationalism is darkness. Man-made false prophecies. Inspired by Jesuits according to Clarance Larkin, the "yoda" of Dispies.

 

[Bassoonery]

I heard about this problem in Japan about 5 years ago through a similar article by OMF. Here in Mizoram, we have a surplus of seminary-trained young men and not enough local pastor positions for them all. I used to try suggesting that some of them consider ministry in Japan, but none of them took me seriously. There is a decent number of Mizo missionaries in SE and East Asia, but so far I don't know of any in Japan, and very few who consider pastoral ministry abroad as an option. Culturally, I feel they could be a good fit if prepared well.

 

[John of Japan]

Dispensationalism is darkness. Man-made false prophecies. Inspired by Jesuits according to Clarance Larkin, the "yoda" of Dispies.

The verse is not talking about doctrine. Jesus is the Light in John's writings. Are you saved? I am. Therefore I can fellowship with you.

 

[1689Dave]

The verse is not talking about doctrine. Jesus is the Light in John's writings. Are you saved? I am. Therefore I can fellowship with you.

I don't fellowship with Dispensationalists any more than I would Mormons or any other cult.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

I don't fellowship with Dispensationalists any more than I would Mormons or any other cult.

Then why are you posting here. Many of us are Dispensationalists. And the subject of this thread the lack of pastors in Japan has little or nothing to do with Dispensationalism.

 

[1689Dave]

Then why are you posting here. Many of us are Dispensationalists. And the subject of this thread the lack of pastors in Japan has little or nothing to do with Dispensationalism.

Thanks for noticing this. Notice I only respond to others as a courtesy if it seems to be drifting off-topic.

Not all are Dispensationalists. You call yourselves "Baptists" and some are by historic standards. But in reply to John, I would no more attend a Dispensational "Baptist" church than I would any other church not tied to Historic Christianity.

If you read my posts, conjuring up missionaries when God does not send them is purely an attempt to plant tares. Jesus says all that the Father gives to him will come to him.

 

[John of Japan]

I don't fellowship with Dispensationalists any more than I would Mormons or any other cult.

Then go away. This is a fellowship thread. For crying out loud, look at the thread name. It's under "Baptist Fellowship Forums." Stop acting dense.

 

[1689Dave]

Then go away. This is a fellowship thread. For crying out loud, look at the thread name. It's under "Baptist Fellowship Forums." Stop acting dense.

How many times have you brought up Dispensationalism? Drop it and I will gladly not extend the courtesy of replying in good manners.

 

[1689Dave]

Then go away. This is a fellowship thread. For crying out loud, look at the thread name. It's under "Baptist Fellowship Forums." Stop acting dense.

Insults only show a lack of thought.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

How many times have you brought up Dispensationalism? Drop it and I will gladly not extend the courtesy of replying in good manners.

So far he hasn't on this thread. You have and in a pejorative manner.

 

[1689Dave]

So far he hasn't on this thread. You have and in a pejorative manner.

He kept the conversation going. I responded as a courtesy.

 

[1689Dave]

He kept the conversation going. I responded as a courtesy.

Also, having Jesuit origins, Dispensationalism is a means by which Antichrist still remains embedded in the temple of God. You need to be aware of this. Also, many other Catholic doctrines replaced Christian truth today.