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Covenanter

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Reynolds said:
Their home in 1948 was supposed to be Trans Jordan. Maybe you should go back and read the treaties that actually pertain to the topic at hand.
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A key document, its centenary currently being "celebrated" is the Balfour Declaration:


Here's the text in full:

Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917

Dear Lord Rothschild,

I have much pleasure in conveying to you. on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet

His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours,

Arthur James Balfour​
 
Reynolds

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Matt Black said:
Not really: 85% of the non-Jewish population of Mandate Palestine were forced to leave their homes during the war establishing the State of Israel in 1948. They have as much right to live there as you or I do in our homes. What gives you the right to deny them that right?
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I have a right to my home because I am Cherokee. You are a land thief. Leave! No one in the USA has ANY degree of moral standing to say Israel is occupying anything.
 
Reynolds

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Matt Black said:
I have. Their home according to whom? I don't believe any of them signed up to it. Sounds like the racist 'treaties' pertaining to the Native Americans.

It's racism. No one calling himself a Christian should have anything to do with it.
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Sounds to me that you are Ignorant of the subject at hand.
 
Reynolds

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Covenanter said:
A key document, its centenary currently being "celebrated" is the Balfour Declaration:


Here's the text in full:

Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917

Dear Lord Rothschild,

I have much pleasure in conveying to you. on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet

His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours,

Arthur James Balfour​
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And about 2/3 of the land supposed to go to Israel went to Arabs.
 
Reynolds

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Matt Black said:
I have. Their home according to whom? I don't believe any of them signed up to it. Sounds like the racist 'treaties' pertaining to the Native Americans.

It's racism. No one calling himself a Christian should have anything to do with it.
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Trans Jordan is their home. Arafat even said that. You ever studied his "civil war" with Jordan.
 
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Reynolds said:
I have a right to my home because I am Cherokee. You are a land thief. Leave! No one in the USA has ANY degree of moral standing to say Israel is occupying anything.
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Right, well you of all people ought to understand the ordeal of the Palestinians
 
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Matt Black

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Reynolds said:
Trans Jordan is their home. Arafat even said that. You ever studied his "civil war" with Jordan.
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No. Pre-1948 Palestine was their home. Why the heck should they move as a result of ethnic cleansing, anymore than your people should have moved as the result of Jackson's ethnic cleansing?
 
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Matt Black

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...which, as the Declaration said, was not to prejudice the rights of the existing inhabitants
 
Reynolds

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Matt Black said:
No. Pre-1948 Palestine was their home. Why the heck should they move as a result of ethnic cleansing, anymore than your people should have moved as the result of Jackson's ethnic cleansing?
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Ok, give us back all our land and then we will discuss Israel.
 
Reynolds

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Matt Black said:
Bit difficult as I'm not there...
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"You" meaning white people. You being from England, the great Emperialistic England, the England that fought tooth and nail to keep its empire, have no moral high ground on the Palestinian issue. Your imperialism caused much of the mess in the first place.
 
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