Jesus sweating blood

[kyredneck]

Considering the pluralities of Heb 5:7....:Who in the days of his flesh offered up prayers and supplications..... this obviously was not the first or only time He prayed such, or even the first time in the garden of Gethsemane for that matter.

Well, of course it's "days." It would sound very strange to say "day of His flesh," so it's an idiom referring to His human existence. I see no problem here. He prayed three times in the Garden, and that fits Hebrews 5:7 easily.

1 When Jesus had spoken these words, he went forth with his disciples over the brook Kidron, where was a garden, into which he entered, himself and his disciples.
2 Now Judas also, who betrayed him, knew the place: for Jesus oft-times resorted thither with his disciples. Jn 18

 

[John of Japan]

Matthew 26:38, ". . . My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: . . ." So you see this as the cup Jesus asked the Father to remove from Him. But then why would it be the Father's will that He simply die in that garden? Matthew 26:39, ". . . prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt. . . ." I am not quit understanding something here.

I can answer with the opposite conundrum. Why would it be the Father's will that Jesus not die on the cross?

The point of the Garden prayer was His complete submission to the Father's will. I believe Jesus knew it was the cross, but was simply stating His submission to the Father no matter what.

 

[37818]

I can answer with the opposite conundrum. Why would it be the Father's will that Jesus not die on the cross?

The point of the Garden prayer was His complete submission to the Father's will. I believe Jesus knew it was the cross, but was simply stating His submission to the Father no matter what.

I believe it goes to His incarnation in being really human. And the fact as the Son never ceased to be God too. Hebrews 4:15, Hebrews 5:8 and Luke 18:19.

 

[rlvaughn]

...But Hebrews 5:7-8...

As a matter of interest, Charles Wesley connected "bloody sweat" to a hymn he wrote on Hebrews 5:7-8. (Short Hymns on Select Passages of the Holy Scriptures, Bristol: E. Farley, 1762, p. 352)

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[John of Japan]

I believe it goes to His incarnation in being really human. And the fact as the Son never ceased to be God too. Hebrews 4:15, Hebrews 5:8 and Luke 18:19.

Well, we're on the same page there.

 

[37818]

As a matter of interest, Charles Wesley connected "bloody sweat" to a hymn he wrote on Hebrews 5:7-8. (Short Hymns on Select Passages of the Holy Scriptures, Bristol: E. Farley, 1762, p. 352)

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Like I have said in other words, Jesus, I think heavy sweat, that fell to the ground resembled clots of blood. So if that was to mean that there was blood in His sweat it could not have been a little. So I honestly cannot believe there was blood in Jesus' sweat. Did not say resembled blood, but resembled clots of blood.

 

[rlvaughn]

Like I have said in other words, Jesus, I think heavy sweat, that fell to the ground resembled clots of blood. So if that was to mean that there was blood in His sweat it could not have been a little. So I honestly cannot believe there was blood in Jesus' sweat. Did not say resembled blood, but resembled clots of blood.

I did not intend to assert a particular view about the blood in post # 44, but simply that through that hymn Charles Wesley had connected Luke 22:44 and Hebrews 5:7-8.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

As the OP is now perma-banned, this thread is now closed.