Featured Joel 2

I will pour...
That does not say: "I will make available."
Why are you changing the Scripture to make it fit your theology.
You can't take the Bible for what it says because it doesn't fit your paradigm, your way of thinking, or even the entire Charismatic movement. It defeats it.

 

I will pour out my spirit on all flesh.
Either he did or he didn't.
He did not do that, did he?
It is not a matter of availability or offering it.
It is a matter of truthfulness, and if it happened.
It didn't happen; it will sometime in the future.
Why do you continue to make the Scriptures lie in order that you might believe a lie?

 

Do you hold to the latter Day rain doctrine, that God in 1905 started to restore his church back to the Apsotolic days?

 

have the modern Apostles ever recorded reveltion of god, or spoke them?

have they seen the risen christ and been commissioned by him?

Can you name just ONE of them for today among us?

 

Can you name even just 1?

 

I believe scripture too.
Scripture doesn't explicitly say that He didn't ride around in a pink Cadillac, so I can believe that if I want. It does not disprove scripture as you say. Your logic is very interesting to say the least.

 

No he isn't. It was a partial fulfillment. Most of his message was directed right toward the Jews and is not applicable to us at all.
The prophecies in verses 19-20 were never fulfilled:

Acts 2:19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

Peter was saying that these promises would only be fulfilled if Israel as a nation would repent. But we know they didn't.
Skip to Peter's second sermon in Acts 3

Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

The same command as Acts 2:38 is given here--repent. It is likely that Peter is saying to the leaders of Israel that had Israel repented God's kingdom would have come to earth.
Acts 3:21 whom the heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, whereof God spake by the mouth of His holy prophets that have been from of old. (ASV)
--The word "restore" here is the same word used in 1:6. Both times they anticipate the restoration of the kingdom to Israel.

Mat 17:11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
--The concept of restoration parallels regeneration when it is used off the kingdom:

Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

What will this kingdom be like which will come after the Second Coming?
At the Great and Terrible day of the Lord?

Isa 65:17-25 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. 18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy. 19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying. 20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed. 21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them. 22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands. 23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them. 24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear. 25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.

Then, and only then, will he pour out his Spirit on ALL flesh.

 

The "last days" of verse 17 began with the birth of Christ.
The audience that Peter is addressing is a Jewish audience and most of what he says is applicable to them, and not us.

Here he says:
Acts 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
--The great and notable day of the Lord, is the Second Coming where He comes for the Jews and then sets up his Kingdom, the one originally offered to the Jews. It is mentioned here, and again in more detail in chapter three and in many places throughout the OT.

That the Jews made fun or mocked the disciples is of no consequence. Ungodly people will always make a mockery of Godly events. That has no bearing on what was actually happening. You can't prove the true by the false.

The same is true here:
2Pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
--There will always be scoffers, scoffing at the things of the Lord. They don't prove the truths of God.

 

some of it was fulfilled at that time among the hearing jews, much of it will be fulfilled in the end of days, right before the "great and terbile day of the Lord", and will also continue intot he Millinium!

To have Joel be addressed to us, either jesus came back, or else we are now int he Millinium, do you believe either has happened?