John 3:5 Is Not Requiring Baptism For Salvation

[Yeshua1]

Doctrine of baptisms was nothing to do with God and nothing to do with whether 'doctrine', is plural or not.

There is not a Teaching in The Bible were immersion is used in any way, with regard to Salvation.

That is why it is not in there.

Jesus baptised His church, figuratively, with The Shakinah Glory of God, to publically inaugurate His church that had already been fully functional, beforehand.

3,000 souls were Saved and added to.... them..... who were 'them'... Jesus' church that He Had just Given Another Comforter.

The 3,000 were Saved, first, then they obeyed The Lord's Command to join a Biblically faithful church of His.

That was The First Baptist Bible Believer's that had John's Scriptural Baptist Bible baptism, by The Authority of God., at Jerusalem.

Jesus had other churches with Scriptural Baptist a baptism, by The Authority of God.

At the time of The Revelation, He Wrote to seven of them.

They have been here ever since, as His FULFILLMENT of His Promise to Be.

Yes, apostate religious societies have had their Candlestick Removed by Jesus.

That is called, "The Glory of The Lord has departed".

That is way any given random person anywhere is so lame at the nuances of various Bible interpretations.

They are in the World instead of sitting at The Feet of Jesus, where Jesus Has His stars in His Hand.

 

[Alan Gross]

The Holy Spirit has never baptised anything.

the Church is the Body and bride of Christ, made up of all the saved from all times, as not just saved Baptists![/QUOTE]

Nah.

"The husband" is not a Body that all brides belong to.

Nothing refers to 'a church' having anything to do with Salvation.

There are word definitions, just like there are usages, as in John 3:15, where water is the mother's water, in Natural childbirth.

I allow The Bible to define it's words, instead of bringing unsubstaiated presuppositions.

 

[Alan Gross]

You must not have read paul in ephesians then!

Paul knows his Bible.

God Wrote it.

Are you trying to refer to something?

 

[Alan Gross]

All of us here are that who are saved, even those who are not Baptists!

Do you see the Word, "Baptist", in my comment you quoted?

Do you see me referencing the word 'saved' in my comment?

 

[Alan Gross]

The Holy Spirit has never baptised anything.

Paul stated that we were all baptized and sealed by the same Holy Spirit into jesus and His Body, the Church of Christ, correct?[/QUOTE]

Not in The Bible, of course not.

'baptism' has not relationship to sealing.

'baptised' never has anything to do with Salvation, anymore than 'water', in John 3:15 has to do with Spirit.

'baptised' never has anything to do with The Spirit, with regard to Salvation.

The Spirit never baptised anything, so never into "The Body".

There is no "The Body" into which all Saved souls belong

And the is no "Church of Christ" to which all Saved belong.

So, there are 7 non-Biblical fantesies contained in your question.

Sorry, The Bible is sitting right there all the time.

 

[Yeshua1]

the Church is the Body and bride of Christ, made up of all the saved from all times, as not just saved Baptists!

Nah.

"The husband" is not a Body that all brides belong to.

Nothing refers to 'a church' having anything to do with Salvation.

There are word definitions, just like there are usages, as in John 3:15, where water is the mother's water, in Natural childbirth.

I allow The Bible to define it's words, instead of bringing unsubstaiated presuppositions.[/QUOTE]
The Body, Bride, and the Church of Christ are all the same thing!

 

[Yeshua1]

Paul knows his Bible.

God Wrote it.

Are you trying to refer to something?

Paul refers to all of the saved as part of one Body, One true Church of Christ in Ephesians!

 

[Yeshua1]

Paul stated that we were all baptized and sealed by the same Holy Spirit into jesus and His Body, the Church of Christ, correct?

Not in The Bible, of course not.

'baptism' has not relationship to sealing.

'baptised' never has anything to do with Salvation, anymore than 'water', in John 3:15 has to do with Spirit.

'baptised' never has anything to do with The Spirit, with regard to Salvation.

The Spirit never baptised anything, so never into "The Body".

There is no "The Body" into which all Saved souls belong

And the is no "Church of Christ" to which all Saved belong.

So, there are 7 non-Biblical fantesies contained in your question.

Sorry, The Bible is sitting right there all the time.[/QUOTE]
I am right now part of the Body, Bride , and Church of Christ!

 

[Alan Gross]

Nah.

"The husband" is not a Body that all brides belong to.

Nothing refers to 'a church' having anything to do with Salvation.

There are word definitions, just like there are usages, as in John 3:15, where water is the mother's water, in Natural childbirth.

I allow The Bible to define it's words, instead of bringing unsubstaiated presuppositions.

The Body, Bride, and the Church of Christ are all the same thing![/QUOTE]

You have an erroneous imagination about all three.

Just as there is no reference, or allusion, to 'baptism' in John 3:15, there is no reference, or allusion, to 'all Saved', being in anything, called "The Body, Bride, and the Church of Christ", in the entire Bible.

It isn't there.

 

[Yeshua1]

Paul stated that we were all baptized and sealed by the same Holy Spirit into jesus and His Body, the Church of Christ, correct?

Not in The Bible, of course not.

'baptism' has not relationship to sealing.

'baptised' never has anything to do with Salvation, anymore than 'water', in John 3:15 has to do with Spirit.

'baptised' never has anything to do with The Spirit, with regard to Salvation.

The Spirit never baptised anything, so never into "The Body".

There is no "The Body" into which all Saved souls belong

And the is no "Church of Christ" to which all Saved belong.

So, there are 7 non-Biblical fantesies contained in your question.

Sorry, The Bible is sitting right there all the time.[/QUOTE]
I had to be placed into spiritual union with Christ and in to His spiritual Body, that was done by the Holy Spirit at conversion!

 

[Alan Gross]

Not in The Bible, of course not.

'baptism' has not relationship to sealing.

'baptised' never has anything to do with Salvation, anymore than 'water', in John 3:15 has to do with Spirit.

'baptised' never has anything to do with The Spirit, with regard to Salvation.

The Spirit never baptised anything, so never into "The Body".

There is no "The Body" into which all Saved souls belong

And the is no "Church of Christ" to which all Saved belong.

So, there are 7 non-Biblical fantesies contained in your question.

Sorry, The Bible is sitting right there all the time.

I had to be placed into spiritual union with Christ and in to His spiritual Body, that was done by the Holy Spirit at conversion![/QUOTE]


"His spiritual Body" has to be strickly in your head, then.

Nobody else here may use The Bible to let it not Say that, either, but God Has 7,000 who haven't bowed their knee to Baal.

The generic use of 'body' and 'church' are no different than the generic use of dozens of other words in The Bible.

The plural of, 'the body' is bodies.

The plural of 'the husband' is husbands.

Not one big universal 'husband'.

Satan deceives people into accomidating his perversion of The Lord's churches in The New Testament, to 'fit' the hierarchical Roman Catholic error of a 'universal church'.

That is patently Satanic.

That is not a Bible Teaching.

Oh, and:

John 3:5 Is Not Requiring Baptism For Salvation.
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[Yeshua1]

I had to be placed into spiritual union with Christ and in to His spiritual Body, that was done by the Holy Spirit at conversion!

"His spiritual Body" has to be strickly in your head, then.

Nobody else here may use The Bible to let it not Say that, either, but God Has 7,000 who haven't bowed their knee to Baal.

The generic use of 'body' and 'church' are no different than the generic use of dozens of other words in The Bible.

The plural of, 'the body' is bodies.

The plural of 'the husband' is husbands.

Not one big universal 'husband'.

Satan deceives people into accomidating his perversion of The Lord's churches in The New Testament, to 'fit' the hierarchical Roman Catholic error of a 'universal church'.

That is patently Satanic.

That is not a Bible Teaching.

Oh, and:

John 3:5 Is Not Requiring Baptism For Salvation.
Tags:

• baptism
  

[/QUOTE]
You do not hold to there being but one true Church, made up of all the saved since time of Christ?

 

[Alan Gross]

"His spiritual Body" has to be strickly in your head, then.

Nobody else here may use The Bible to let it not Say that, either, but God Has 7,000 who haven't bowed their knee to Baal.

The generic use of 'body' and 'church' are no different than the generic use of dozens of other words in The Bible.

The plural of, 'the body' is bodies.

The plural of 'the husband' is husbands.

Not one big universal 'husband'.

Satan deceives people into accomidating his perversion of The Lord's churches in The New Testament, to 'fit' the hierarchical Roman Catholic error of a 'universal church'.

That is patently Satanic.

That is not a Bible Teaching.

Oh, and:

John 3:5 Is Not Requiring Baptism For Salvation.
Tags:

• baptism
  

You do not hold to there being but one true Church, made up of all the saved since time of Christ?[/QUOTE]

The Bible doesn't.

That's stupid, actually.

Saved souls on Earth are in The Kingdom of God.

'Church' is a word for a called-out assembly.

The statement you are making is foreign to Jesus, God, The Bible, or The Holy Spirit in John 3:15.

 

[Yeshua1]

You do not hold to there being but one true Church, made up of all the saved since time of Christ?

The Bible doesn't.

That's stupid, actually.

Saved souls on Earth are in The Kingdom of God.

'Church' is a word for a called-out assembly.

The statement you are making is foreign to Jesus, God, The Bible, or The Holy Spirit in John 3:15.[/QUOTE]
The true Church that Jesus built was and is a spiritual body of saved believers, as per the Bible itself!

 

[Alan Gross]

The Bible doesn't.

That's stupid, actually.

Saved souls on Earth are in The Kingdom of God.

'Church' is a word for a called-out assembly.

The statement you are making is foreign to Jesus, God, The Bible, or The Holy Spirit in John 3:15.

The true Church that Jesus built was and is a spiritual body of saved believers, as per the Bible itself![/QUOTE]


And John 3:15 teaches the everyone who has School Spirit is Saved when it Rains.

If that's how you want to editorialize.

Roman Catholic philosophies, inspired by SATAN, and God's Words are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

You terminology is man-made.

'a spiritual body' is very Offensive to The One Who Built what He Said He Built.

agedman said he could care less about seeing anything about her from The Bible.

You seem more inclined to just write a bunch of extra Roman Catholic ideas about it there and pretent they are in The Bible.

But, The Bible has been around a long time and noone has ever seen 'a spiritual body' in there.

It's only imagined, or written in.

 

[Dave G]

But, The Bible has been around a long time and noone has ever seen 'a spiritual body' in there.

I have.
It's called "the body of Christ", and it is comprised of believers.

 

[Alan Gross]

I have.
It's called "the body of Christ", and it is comprised of believers.

There are various reference to words referring to Church Truth in The Bible.

Perversions of Church Truth and all it's various specific details are written about, once Satan began his assaults on her, but they reflect carnal flesh misinterpretation of The Bible, by men.

"the body of Christ", and it is comprised of believers" is not a Bible Teaching.

In other words, "the body of Christ", and it is comprised of believers" can not be Taught from The Bible.

That profound error and denial of The Lord's churches is not possible when God is considered, for the sake of honesty.

With man, being honest with The Word of God is impossible.

 

[Dave G]

"the body of Christ", and it is comprised of believers" is not a Bible Teaching.

" So we, [being] many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another." ( Romans 12:5 ).

In other words, "the body of Christ", and it is comprised of believers" can not be Taught from The Bible.

" For we [being] many are one bread, [and] one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread." ( 1 Corinthians 10:17 )

" For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also [is] Christ.
13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit." ( 1 Corinthians 12:12-13 ).

For additional reading, please see 1 Corinthians 12:12-31.

All true believers are part of the body of Christ.
It is a spiritual body...not a physical one.

The local church of called-out ones is nothing more than an extension of the entire body of Christ.

 

[Alan Gross]

" So we, [being] many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another." ( Romans 12:5 ).

" For we [being] many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread." ( 1 Corinthians 10:17 )

" For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also [is] Christ.
13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit." ( 1 Corinthians 12:12-13 ).

for additional reading, see 1 Corinthians 12:12-31.

All true believers are part of the body of Christ.
It is a spiritual body...not a physical one.

The local church of called-out ones is nothing more than an extension of the entire body of Christ.

With man, being honest with The Word of God is impossible.

"members one of another"

"we being many"

"hath many members
and all the members of that one body, "

"we all baptized into one body,"

...

The Spirit of God is Allowed to Govern the members in particular who He Enables and Leads to be water baptised into a body of believers.

We, in turn, are not allowed to invent errors based on misreading.

 

[Dave G]

We, in turn, are not allowed to invent errors based on misreading.

But we are allowed to come to the correct understanding of it by the Spirit that teaches us of all things ( 1 John 2:20-27 ).

May God bless you, sir.