John Calvin on The Extent of Jesus' Death

Not at all, have in library Berkhof, Frame, Grudem, Vos, read any of then van in full?

 

His view in regards to how we see salvation is interesting, as nothing found ion my various books have read on Calvinist theology!

 

The myths pushed by Calvinists seem endless.

First their opponents do not understand Calvinism. But the fact is the proponents post misinformation about Calvinism.

Next they misrepresent their opponents, i.e. Van pretends Kosmos "always" means humanity.

Next "opened her heart" means enabled by irresistible grace. Does any verse say that? Nope.

Was Lydia a worshiper of God? Yes, thus was open to the word of God.

How does God open hearts to His word? Through witnesses, not supernatural enabling beams.

Next Calvinism says people cannot respond to God's revealed word, which is a denial of scripture.

Next they deny being given to Him, John 6:37 results in being placed within Christ and will not be cast out.

Next, the Calvinist happily admits he did not address the gift of faith to infants, which of course hides Calvinism.

 

Now this brilliant poster equates having books and books of smokescreed spewing falsehood with running away from Calvinist doctrine by posting misinformation, such as people "will be" rather than "are" God's elect.

 

Certainly true of scripture, as nothing there is found to support the TULI of Calvinism.

 

Did Christ die as a ransom for all? Yes.

Did this include "the church?" Yes

Did this exclude those not yet saved and never to be saved? Nope

 

Hvae rerad therm also, but Geisler is very confused on Calvinism, as he equates 5 point one being Hyper, and that he is a "moderate" one!

 

Its all the way thru scriptures!

 

Have you read "any
of them?"

 

Grudem good. except in his takes on eternal subordination and spiritual gifts!

 

The myths pushed by Van seem endless.

First, he doesn't understand Calvinism and then, without adducing any evidence, accuses those who do of posting misinformation.

Next, Van pretends that he hasn't mistranslated kosmos time after time as 'humanity.'

Does Acts 16:14 say God offered to open her heart? Nope. Does the verse say God tried to open her heart? Nope. God opened her heart and it was opened. 'My counsel shall stand, and I will do all My pleasure.....Indeed, I have spoken it; I will also bring it to pass. I have purposed it; I will also do it' (Isaiah 46:10-11).

Was Lydia a Christian before God opened her heart? Nope. She needed to be saved and God opened her heart.

Did the text say that witnesses opened Lydia's heart? Nope. God opened her heart.to receive the things spoken by Paul.

Next Van pretends that Calvinism teaches that people cannot respond to God's revealed word. Of course they can, when God opens their hearts to do so. Before that they are dead in trespasses and sins

Next Van deliberately confuses elect sinners being given to Christ for Him to save (John 6:37, 39; 17:2 etc.) with sinners being 'placed in Christ' which seems to be his misunderstanding of Colossians 1:13 which in fact teaches no such thing.

Next, to obfuscate still further, he talks about a 'gift of faith' to infants, for which there is no Biblical text and which sounds a bit Roman Catholic to me, and has the brass neck to say it is Calvinism!

 

You have correctly read his bogus musings not based on truth.
Van to his credit does try and man up and offer a biblical answer, just gets lost in the theological corn maze more than often then not.

 

Note folks the generalization, the stock and trade of Calvinist misinformation

 

I read the book you seem not to comprehend. The B I B L E

 

Once again Martin addresses me and not the topic. This vicious and vindictive behavior should be telling...

Next the Calvinist pretends he can read minds, informing others concerning my knowledge. This infantile behavior should be telling...

Next he rewrites his material false statement (kosmos always means humanity) to kosmos is often used to refer to humanity. See a pattern of deceit?

Next he ignores the fact God uses witnesses to provide understanding of the gospel to the lost. No supernatural irresistible grace enabling beam.

Next, he claims I indicated Calvinism says those enabled by their supernatural beam cannot understand. Not what I said

Finally he denies Calvinism claims elect babies who die in the womb are given faith and saved. Another material false statement.

Calvinism's falsehoods are defended using falsehoods as demonstrated above.

Did Christ die as a ransom for all? Yes.

Did this include "the church?" Yes

Did this exclude those not yet saved and never to be saved? Nope

 

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Jesus atonement paid for those who believe and no one else

The payment via atonement is only for those who believe and no others.

The payment was never made for those who don't believe.

When you say "yes" you proclaim universalism and effective salvation for all. Yet, you cannot conceive that this is exactly what you are declaring. It has to be some huge blind spot in your mind that makes you incapable of seeing what you are openly declaring. I have tried repeatedly to help you see your universalism and you just repeatedly cannot see it.