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John Kelly Rips Congresswoman for Disclosing Call to Gold Star Family...

FollowTheWay

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No, Trump truthfully said getting shot down and captured does not make you a war hero.
This is exactly what Trump said: "He's not a war hero," Trump said of McCain at the 2015 Family Leadership Summit in Iowa. "He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured."

here was what the military thought:

Naval Aviator badge
Silver Star Medal Legion of Merit with Combat "V" and Star
Distinguished Flying Cross Bronze Star Medal
with Combat "V" and two Stars Purple Heart Medal
with Star
Meritorious Service Medal Air Medal
with star and Strike/Flight numeral "2" Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal
with Combat "V" and Star
Navy Combat Action Ribbon Prisoner of War Medal Navy Expeditionary Medal
National Defense Service Medal with star Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal Vietnam Service Medal with two stars
Republic of Vietnam National Order of Vietnam
(Commander)[192][224] Republic of Vietnam Meritorious Unit Citation
(Gallantry Cross)
with frame and palm Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal
with 1960- device
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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This is exactly what Trump said: "He's not a war hero," Trump said of McCain at the 2015 Family Leadership Summit in Iowa. "He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured."

here was what the military thought:

Naval Aviator badge
Silver Star Medal Legion of Merit with Combat "V" and Star
Distinguished Flying Cross Bronze Star Medal
with Combat "V" and two Stars Purple Heart Medal
with Star
Meritorious Service Medal Air Medal
with star and Strike/Flight numeral "2" Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal
with Combat "V" and Star
Navy Combat Action Ribbon Prisoner of War Medal Navy Expeditionary Medal
National Defense Service Medal with star Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal Vietnam Service Medal with two stars
Republic of Vietnam National Order of Vietnam
(Commander)[192][224] Republic of Vietnam Meritorious Unit Citation
(Gallantry Cross)
with frame and palm Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal
with 1960- device
And what’s Trump got...bone spurs! Also, a good brain.:Roflmao
 

JohnDeereFan

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All should hear this. Kelly defends Trump, rips congresswoman for politicizing the President's condolence call. Said Trump said exactly what most other presidents and servicemen say when they call the families. Pleads to not politicize this last sacred act of honoring fallen soldiers.


I live in Florida and even my Democrat neighbors don't understand how Wilson keeps getting elected.
 

Reynolds

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How did McCain give you Obama? Wasn’t BO voted in twice?
2008 Obama beat McCain. 2012 incumbent Obama beat Romney.
Not too complicated bro. Had McCain beaten him, He would never have been President. As a habit, we don't recycle Presidential nominees.
 

LowOiL

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GW Bush did the same thing to John Kerry. Bush only got into the Air National Guard because of his father's money and influence. He somehow jumped of a 100 man waiting list to dodge going to Vietnam. Then he painted Kerry, Lt., U.S. Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, and three awards of the Purple Heart for his service in combat, asnot being a patriot. Let's look at facts rather than GOP propaganda.

Ask his fellow boatman what they thought of Kerry. He probable typed his own requests for those medals.

Articles: Media still lying about the Swift Boat Veterans
 

Salty

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Nobody can answer the mail on that one and then talk to me about Trump's respect for the military. Every Trumpie on this board will deflect and dodge that one or pretend it never happened.

1) please give a definition of a "Trumpie"
 

Salty

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He somehow jumped of a 100 man waiting list to dodge going to Vietnam. .
This statement is a slap in the face of every Army and Air Force National Guard unit that was sent to Nam - as well as every individual in those units.

... Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, and three awards of the Purple Heart for his service in combat, ....
Yes, he did receive three Purple Hearts - but two were under questionable actions, as well as being very minor.
In additional he took advantage of PCS policy of Purple Hearts A true GI would want to stay with his unit.
 

FollowTheWay

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This statement is a slap in the face of every Army and Air Force National Guard unit that was sent to Nam - as well as every individual in those units.


Yes, he did receive three Purple Hearts - but two were under questionable actions, as well as being very minor.
In additional he took advantage of PCS policy of Purple Hearts A true GI would want to stay with his unit.
It's only a slap in the face to those who got in the National Guard unfairly using their families money and influence. I know guys who got in the right way by getting on the list and waiting until they got called.
 

Salty

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It's only a slap in the face to those who got in the National Guard unfairly using their families money and influence. I know guys who got in the right way by getting on the list and waiting until they got called.


You said: "to dodge going to Vietnam." ( referring to Bush).
So tell me, how did Bush know that his unit would not be called up to go to Nam?
 

Salty

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This is exactly what Trump said: "He's not a war hero," Trump said of McCain at the 2015 Family Leadership Summit in Iowa. "He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured."

here was what the military thought:

Naval Aviator badge
Silver Star Medal Legion of Merit with Combat "V" and Star
Distinguished Flying Cross Bronze Star Medal
with Combat "V" and two Stars Purple Heart Medal
with Star
Meritorious Service Medal Air Medal
with star and Strike/Flight numeral "2" Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal
with Combat "V" and Star
Navy Combat Action Ribbon Prisoner of War Medal Navy Expeditionary Medal
National Defense Service Medal with star Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal Vietnam Service Medal with two stars
Republic of Vietnam National Order of Vietnam
(Commander)[192][224] Republic of Vietnam Meritorious Unit Citation
(Gallantry Cross)
with frame and palm Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal
with 1960- device

It should be noted that there was no need to list the last 5 as those were "attendance awards"
 

FollowTheWay

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You said: "to dodge going to Vietnam." ( referring to Bush).
So tell me, how did Bush know that his unit would not be called up to go to Nam?
The Guard was viewed at the time as probably a way to avoid going to fight in Vietnam. You're correct in saying that sometimes the Guardsmen were ordered to Nam but that didn't happen very often. I have two friends that joined the Air National Guard for exactly this reason.
 

Bro. Curtis

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LOL. So it’s cool for your friends to do it but not Bush ?


I know lots of guardsmen who deployed to the post 9/11 Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
 

Sapper Woody

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I don't want to discredit it out down anyone who got a purple heart. But I will point out that it's not too hard to get one. A buddy of mine got one when a grenade was launched into our compound. I was closer to the detonation than he was, but he got nicked by shrapnel.

When I say nicked, I mean that literally they put a band-aid on it. That's it. Yet since he bled, he got a people heart.

I feel the need to interject here that I am not upset that he did. I helped him get it with a sworn statement.

Also, it's not too uncommon for someone to write their own award. As long as they are doing it under orders of their Superior, I have no issue with it. (Except the fact that the Superior is shirking)

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