SavedByGrace
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You called him a heretic. By definition a person who teaches or practices a religious heresy is a heretic. You can't say someone teaches heresy without calling them a heretic.
Definition of HERESY
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You called him a heretic. By definition a person who teaches or practices a religious heresy is a heretic. You can't say someone teaches heresy without calling them a heretic.
That's not what MacArthur is saying. MacArthur is saying that Christ's mere bleeding isn't what saves, and that's true. It's why we're pointed to the Cross, and not His circumcision.yeah? then show how? JM is the one who is here misrepresenting what the Bible teaches on the Blood that Jesus Christ shed on the cross. It is clear from many verses in the Bible, that it is the ACTUAL BLOOD that Atones for sins, and not the body!
You did something stupid and are not humble enough to see your error.Learn the English language and then post back on here
So, you can't tell me how much Blood Jesus had to shed to atone for our sins?You are taking complete RUBBISH
The killing of the lamb was the requirement for atonement and for the death angel to pass over and not kill, in Egypt. The marking of the blood was done to show that the lamb had been slain and that Israel had obeyed.SHOW ONE verse from the Bible that says that the shedding of Jesus' Blood is symbolic. Or the equivalent in the Old Testament
Don't take away from the Bible what God has put there, or add to it
So, you can't tell me how much Blood Jesus had to shed to atone for our sins?
Why didn't His circumcisn atone for our sins?
You did something stupid and are not humble enough to see your error.
Bro SBG,
I do not hear John MacArthur teaching what you are saying at all.
It is the proper application of the blood that is in question.
It is easy to see that MacArthur associates the blood of Christ with his sacrifice on Calvary but not an application apart from his death. His death AND resurrection validated the new covenant. Heb 9:16 says, "For where a testament/covenant is, there must also of necessity be the death (by shedding of blood) of the testator." The blood cannot be separated from any of the doctrines of salvation. The blood cannot be separated from the life, nor the death, nor the Lord's supper, nor the covenant, nor the body. We could go on and on.
The scriptures warns us to be slow to anger. It sometimes keeps our ears from rightly hearing what others are truly saying.
Leviticus 17:11, "For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul"
can you understand what this means?
So all the animal had to do was bleed? Or did it need to be killed? If your answer is the latter you are correct. What MacArthur is saying is that simply bleeding, like from a cut, or circumcision didn't make atonement in either case - it was the blood poured out from the taking of the life of the animal, which found its ultimate fulfillment in Christ.
At this point, enough people have explained MacArthur's statement to you that you are now simply being willfully ignorant for the sake of labeling someone you don't like a heretic.
labeling someone you don't like a heretic
yet another person who does not understand the DIFFERENCE between a "heretic" and "heresy"!
Yet another person who does not understand the DEFINITION of a heretic!
dude, I have NEVER called MacArthur a HERETIC! I said what he teaches on the BLOOD of Jesus Christ shed on the Cross, is HERESY. IF you can show where I called him a HERETIC, then please do!
Can you disprove what I have shown from the Bible, and the language used by JM, that I am wrong?
dude, Reynolds told you that one who teaches heresy is by definition a heretic.
Essential Meaning of heretic
: someone who believes or teaches something that goes against accepted or official beliefs
The church regards them as heretics
this was also pulled from Merriam webster
dude, Reynolds told you that one who teaches heresy is by definition a heretic.
Essential Meaning of heretic
: someone who believes or teaches something that goes against accepted or official beliefs
The church regards them as heretics
this was also pulled from Merriam webster
I edited out the claim of heresy.