John the Baptist

[dianetavegia]

Originally posted by prophecynut:
"Mystery" is an excellent choice of words to describe the understanding Calvinist have concerning God's will in salvation. "Mystery" is a previously hidden truth unveiled by God's revelation as in Eph. 1:9; "and he made know to us the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ,..." This mystery is God's good pleasure to purpose in Christ to "bring all things in heaven and on earth" under His headship. It is God "who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will (v.11). "All things" and "everything" conforms to his will, this is 100% not 99% God and 1% human. This mystery has been revealed to and accepted by those who know the will of God. Apparently you are lacking in this understanding because you still are trying to please God with your 1% effort.

"Truth is simple and profound. Error is mysterious and complicated. The farther truth is pursued the easier it is to maintain, while error multiplies its weaknesses and eventually crushes the ones who support it."

Diane asks: Which IS it? Either truth is simple and profound and error is mysterious or "Mystery" is an excellent choice of words to describe the understanding Calvinist have concerning God's will in salvation.

Reading your two remarks, I'd say you're saying mystery/ mysterious is error while truth is simple; ergo Calvinism is error.

 

[prophecynut]

Human errors remain a mystery because there is no truth in them to be revealed.

God's truth in a mystery will be revealed to those who understand.

Two totally different mysteries, one is made up of lies the other truth.

 

[Wes Outwest]

Yep, Prophesynut, it's pure mystery to me why anyone with the ability to think, would believe the Calvinist doctrine. P.T.Barnham was right! There's a sucker born every second! A sucker is one who is gullible to the lies of others!

 

[prophecynut]

Originally posted by prophecynut:
confusing and disoriented contents of your posts

 

[dianetavegia]

Originally posted by prophecynut:
"Mystery" is an excellent choice of words to describe the understanding Calvinist have concerning God's will in salvation. "Mystery" is a previously hidden truth unveiled by God's revelation as in Eph. 1:9; .............. This mystery has been revealed to and accepted by those who know the will of God. Apparently you are lacking in this understanding because you still are trying to please God with your 1% effort.

So if
"Mystery" is an excellent choice of words to describe the understanding Calvinist have concerning God's will in salvation and if This mystery has been revealed to and accepted by those who know the will of God then why can not ONE of you explain it the same way or explain this great mystery so others, even other Calvinists, can understand it.

You Calvinists (general use of you) use the word MYSTERY everytime you are unable to answer a question and yet wouldn't allow a non Calvinist to use such an enigma!

Prophecynut said: Apparently you are lacking in this understanding because you still are trying to please God with your 1% effort.

Diane replies: Nope! I try to give God 100%.

 

[rc]

Truth is simple and profound ....


Prophecynut.
I'm not doubting your mind or your command of conveying thought, but that was a quote wasn't it? Who said it? If it was you, bravo....

Those who never read books, will never be read.
And those who never quote men will never be quoted. ~ Spurgeon

 

[prophecynut]

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"why can not ONE of you explain it the same way or explain this great mystery so others, even other Calvinists, can understand it."

I just explained the mystery and you were not able to understand, if there are any Calvinists out there who do not understand please speak up. There may be many different explanations that achieve the same answer. Calvinists understand that God is 100% responsible for their salvation which is the answer of the mystery, it doesn't matter how you arrive at it.

You cannot understand the answer, why? Is it stubbornness, pride or refusal to acknowledge the truth?

You are not depending on God 100% for your salvation because you insist humans have free will to accept Christ. A human decision is works, there is no way around this fact, period.

Are there any Calvinist who don't understand my explanation of the mystery?

 

[rc]

Nope! I try to give God 100%.

But your theology fails you.

 

[prophecynut]

rc I don't know the original source of the quote, it was given to me by Heart Talker on the Forum: Other Christian Denomination, Topic: The Bride of Christ page 2

Are you a Calvinist? Giving 100% is not the same as accepting 100%

 

[dianetavegia]

Truth is the opposite of error and has an opposite effect. Truth is simple and profound. Error is mysterious and complicated. The farther truth is pursued the easier it is to maintain, while error multiplies its weaknesses and eventually crushes the ones who support it. Error is temporary while truth is eternal

Here's the whole thing and it was from a webpage. http://www.whatistruth.info/

Jerry's Haven 'n Tell

Searching for Truth...
In our search for TRUTH, we should accept the obvious meaning and refuse the devious. Truth has a fountainhead and we should go to the Source for it. Truth is not a mystery, nor a maze. Bible TRUTH does not have to zigzag its way through seven judgments, four gospels, multiple resurrections infinitesimal hair splitting definitions about Jews and Gentiles, endless detours to get around road-blocks needing experts to "rightly DIVIDE the truth." Truth is simple. God meant for ordinary people to understand it in its most apparent meaning.

 

[rc]

Are you a Calvinist? Giving 100% is not the same as accepting 100%

I'm a Paulinian! lol..

That was a quote from Diane not I. I would dare say I have ANYTHING to give to Christ. You are correct in your statement sir.

Post Tenebras Lux

RC