Jury Verdict

[Scott Downey]

My only concern is WHY he was found guilty.
IF it is because they honestly believe he was guilty, thats one thing
BUT if they found quility because they were afraid that there would be rioting
Than that was the wrong reason to vote guilty.

I think it was more of personal fear of being attacked, tormented, killed by fanatical BLM or Antifa people, their property destroyed, looted, burned down. Their career's ruined. People are mostly motivated for personal reasons or feelings, not good ones. Now as a believer, you have a different heart, and do not think as the world thinks, but the others are different with darkened hearts. And the flesh gets in the way even with believers who dont always do things with right judgement.

 

[Yeshua1]

You're that upset that a black victim received justice?!? Very telling.

Not at all, but that all get due process due them!

 

[Yeshua1]

What point are you trying to make?

That we who are not supporting BLM are racists?

 

[Salty]

Not at all, but that all get due process due them!

With an emphasis on "ALL" !!!

 

[Yeshua1]

You ask a very good question. Why would anyone be upset with justice being decided, unless there is an underlying bias involved?
Our brother's may be blind to their bias. We may not be able to remove those scales, but their heavenly Father can remove them as he removed them from Peter and Paul.

I pray that God does a work of redemption in Mr Chauvin's life while he is in jail. Many believers go into jails and share the gospel with inmates (thank you Chuck Colson) where they come to faith. Isolation from others can bring us to God. May this happen for Me Chauvin.
For those who gleefully celebrate over Mr Chauvin and his incarceration, I pray they will look inward and see the same corruption in their own hearts and also repent. There is no cause for joy unless it is the moment when a broken sinner believes in the shed blood of Christ for the payment of their sins and repents of their rebellion against God. At that news...we rejoice greatly as does all of heaven.

Just saying that all should get their due process, as do not think it would be proper to have leaders saying the "black guy got what he deserved" would have been right either!

 

[Yeshua1]

This is a little different. The judge himself the appeal has a good chance because of comments from politicians that can be argued tainted the trial to not be fair.

Would the Dems and med been OK if the President had stated that he prays that the white cop gets found not gulity?

 

[Yeshua1]

With an emphasis on "ALL" !!!

Cannot have just one way predetermined "justice"

 

[Scott Downey]

Cannot have just one way predetermined "justice"

IMO, the result of this trial was predetermined to be guilty. You could read that in what the judge said before the verdict about Waters comments allowing for the trial verdict to be overturned. A new trial in a different venue with a better jury. 98% oxygen in his lungs and he died of his own self administered overdose. The cops were just like bystanders. How would you like to be found guilty of murder for someone dying when you were not the reason they died. It just was emotionally charged and looked bad on the video.

 

[Salty]

IMO, the result of this trial was predetermined to be guilty..

and the media made sure of that
How often did you hear "Alleged crime, Alleged murderer"? and ect

and why was it months before we saw the entire video - where Floyd was constantly resisting arrest.

and how often did the media show the report on the drugs in his system.....

Derek Chauvin - is 5'9 and weighs 140 pounds
George Floyd is 6' 6" - and it looks like that Floyd is a good 325 pounds

Who initially has the physical advantage?????

 

[AustinC]

These are the facts. Derek Chauvin is found guilty, by a jury of his peers, on 3 counts of murder. All other opinions here are merely conjecture.

Look into your own hearts to see if your attitude represents Christ Jesus.

 

[Yeshua1]

These are the facts. Derek Chauvin is found guilty, by a jury of his peers, on 3 counts of murder. All other opinions here are merely conjecture.

Look into your own hearts to see if your attitude represents Christ Jesus.

Well, hopefully when the white cop in Ohio is not charged with a crime folks will not pull out ole race card on him !

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

These are the facts. Derek Chauvin is found guilty, by a jury of his peers, on 3 counts of murder. All other opinions here are merely conjecture. Look into your own hearts to see if your attitude represents Christ Jesus.

Backatcha. Attempting to limit “the facts” to a select few is disingenuous, especially for the purpose of then insinuating others have a wrong attitude because they point out more facts.

 

[Salty]

These are the facts. Derek Chauvin is found guilty, by a jury of his peers, on 3 counts of murder. All other opinions here are merely conjecture.

Look into your own hearts to see if your attitude represents Christ Jesus.

Legally, you are correct!
My only concern is WHY they voted to acquit.

I'm sure the conviction will be appealed.
Will it be successful - well, that is to be seen.

Interesting - very similar to the Presidential election
The looser appealed - but lost the appeal.
yet many supporters will not accept the decision,
even though there is nothing they can do.

That is the reason, why on my FB page, I stated that the election is over - been thur the courts
has been confirmed by Congress - and the case is closed. (which meant no more discussion on my FB page!)

I mentioned that its a waste of time to fight about the presidential election - so lets work together and win back both houses of Congress.

Unless there is a successful appeal - we will have to deal with it.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Legally, you are correct!
My only concern is WHY they voted to acquit.

I'm sure the conviction will be appealed.
Will it be successful - well, that is to be seen.

It’s quite possible they felt he was guilty on all charges.

It’s quite possible they felt there were no reasonable doubts.

It was quite obvious that the prosecution aimed at their feelings.

The last prosecutor also repeatedly belittled the closing arguments of the defense in order to prejudice the jury. The judge did not recognize nearly all of the objections.

The defense afterward cited a long list, then asked for a mistrial and that the prosecutor be charged with prosecutorial misconduct.

The judge claimed he thought the objections were only for the use of the word “story.” Though he had stopped the prosecutor and reprimanded him, he was otherwise unmoved.

 

[Salty]

It’s quite possible they felt he was guilty on all charges.

It’s quite possible they felt there were no reasonable doubts.

It was quite obvious that the prosecution aimed at their feelings.

The last prosecutor also repeatedly belittled the closing arguments of the defense in order to prejudice the jury. The judge did not recognize nearly all of the objections.

The defense afterward cited a long list, then asked for a mistrial and that the prosecutor be charged with prosecutorial misconduct.

The judge claimed he thought the objections were only for the use of the word “story.” Though he had stopped the prosecutor and reprimanded him, he was otherwise unmoved.

and if that was their reasoning - then I accept their decision ( I dont like it - but it is a valid decision)

Now, if they voted to convict because they believed that rioting would happen and/or they feared for their personal safety -
is a whole other story.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

and if that was their reasoning - then I accept their decision ( I dont like it - but it is a valid decision)

Now, if they voted to convict because they believed that rioting would happen and/or they feared for their personal safety - is a whole other story.

I accept that they returned verdicts regardless, and that they will be appealed, etc.

However, those substituting feeling for reasoning, are not my go-to. Not much point in it with that as the basis.

But, “Do what you feel, believe what you want,” such is the world we live in.

 

[AustinC]

Legally, you are correct!
My only concern is WHY they voted to acquit.

I'm sure the conviction will be appealed.
Will it be successful - well, that is to be seen.

Interesting - very similar to the Presidential election
The looser appealed - but lost the appeal.
yet many supporters will not accept the decision,
even though there is nothing they can do.

That is the reason, why on my FB page, I stated that the election is over - been thur the courts
has been confirmed by Congress - and the case is closed. (which meant no more discussion on my FB page!)

I mentioned that its a waste of time to fight about the presidential election - so lets work together and win back both houses of Congress.

Unless there is a successful appeal - we will have to deal with it.

We may never know. And I am okay with leaving it in God's hands.

 

[JonC]

It is according to the legal system in the USA

I do not believe the world a very good judge of what is just and unjust. Many guilty people have been "justly" sentenced while many criminals have been let walk to kill or rob.

But yes, the US judicial system operated as designed.

 

[Salty]

But yes, the US judicial system operated as designed.

A perfect system run by imperfect people

 

[JonC]

A perfect system run by imperfect people

I'd say an imperfect system as well.

For example, if an officer mistakenly shoots a young man (say confusing her gun for a tazer) that officer would most likely receive a sentence. What is "just" (other than following the system of laws)?

The young man is not restored. The family of that man is not restored. The officer is not in need of rehabilitation, not is she a threat to society (as she would no longer be an officer) . In the end there is only a verdict to satisfy some emotional resentment, but to accomplish nothing.

The law remains intact, but true justice remains beyond the capability of the judicial system.