Justification by Faith !

[Brightfame52]

Gal 3:8 What's more, the Scriptures looked forward to this time when God would declare the Gentiles to be righteous because of their faith. God proclaimed this good news to Abraham long ago when He said, "All nations will be blessed through you."

BF you have said a number of times that "Everyone Christ died for shall be Justified by Faith." but for you tho hold to that view would mean you have to be a universalist.

The scriptures are clear as to how Christ died for. Are you going to deny scripture?

Heb 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone.

1Jn 2:2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.

1Ti 2:6 who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time,

Rom 5:6 For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

Rom 5:8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Christ died for the sins of all men but God will only save those that free trust in Him.

Gal 3:5 Therefore He who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you, does He do it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?;
Gal 3:6 just as Abraham "believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness."
Gal 3:7 Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham.
Gal 3:8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, "In you all the nations shall be blessed."

BF, I keep telling you to look at verses in context and then you will not continue to miss apply scripture.

Justification by Faith is the promised blessing of Abraham, all for whom Christ died, will be Justified by Faith. Christ fulfilled all the conditions

 

[Silverhair]

Justification by Faith is the promised blessing of Abraham, all for whom Christ died, will be Justified by Faith. Christ fulfilled all the conditions

The fact that you just repeat the same comment shows that you really do not have any support for your view. Scripture proves your man-made view is flawed and unbiblical.

The downfall of calvinism is context. You have to grab out of context verses that you think help you but all they do is show how vapid your view is.

 

[Van]

The blessing of Abraham is that God would Justify the heathen by Faith. Christ fulfilled the conditions, also regeneration is included, its also the Blessing of Abraham.

Why make claims without references.

Galatians 3:14 says Gentiles placed spiritually into Christ by means of faith will receive the promised Spirit.

Galatians3:14
in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham would come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.​

 

[Brightfame52]

The fact that you just repeat the same comment shows that you really do not have any support for your view. Scripture proves your man-made view is flawed and unbiblical.

The downfall of calvinism is context. You have to grab out of context verses that you think help you but all they do is show how vapid your view is.

Justification by Faith is the result of Gods action Rom 3:30

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

See that ? Its God who shall Justify ! Rom 8 33

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

It is God who gives Faith with Justification

 

[Brightfame52]

Why make claims without references.

Galatians 3:14 says Gentiles placed spiritually into Christ by means of faith will receive the promised Spirit.

Galatians3:14
in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham would come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.​

Justification by Faith is the result of Gods action Rom 3:30

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

See that ? Its God who shall Justify ! Rom 8 33

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

It is God who gives Faith with Justification

 

[Van]

Justification by Faith is the result of Gods action Rom 3:30

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

See that ? Its God who shall Justify ! Rom 8 33

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

It is God who gives Faith with Justification

LOL, the fact God justifies is not at issue. Why post non-germane verbiage?

Galatians3:14
in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham would come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.​

Galatians 3:14 says Gentiles placed spiritually into Christ by means of their credited faith will receive the promised Spirit.

 

[Silverhair]

Justification by Faith is the result of Gods action Rom 3:30

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

See that ? Its God who shall Justify ! Rom 8 33

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

It is God who gives Faith with Justification

@Brightfame52 no one is arguing that only God can justify a person. What you do not seem to understand or accept is that God will only justify a person after they have freely trusted in Him.

For some strange reason calvinist's want a person to be saved prior to them having any faith in God and even that faith has to be given to them. That is a totally unbiblical idea.

Boasting excluded by the law of faith
"From the nature of faith. Faith simply trusts, accepts a proffered gift. There can be no boasting in believing that God speaks the truth; nor in a helpless sinner leaning on omnipotence; nor in a beggar receiving alms. Faith looks entirely away from itself to another, viz., Christ. Eyes only Christ’s righteousness, not its own; comes empty-handed and receives out of Christ’s fulness (John 1:16); is the window through which the light passes, not the light; glories in Christ’s obedience, but not in its own. Therefore faith is a humble, depending, self-renouncing grace." J. Robinson, D. D

 

[Brightfame52]

LOL, the fact God justifies is not at issue. Why post non-germane verbiage?

Galatians3:14
in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham would come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.​

Galatians 3:14 says Gentiles placed spiritually into Christ by means of their credited faith will receive the promised Spirit.

God Justifies by Faith. It reads Rom 3:30

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

Its a unified whole, God gives the Spiritual Blessing of " Justification by Faith"

 

[Brightfame52]

@Brightfame52 no one is arguing that only God can justify a person. What you do not seem to understand or accept is that God will only justify a person after they have freely trusted in Him.

For some strange reason calvinist's want a person to be saved prior to them having any faith in God and even that faith has to be given to them. That is a totally unbiblical idea.

Boasting excluded by the law of faith
"From the nature of faith. Faith simply trusts, accepts a proffered gift. There can be no boasting in believing that God speaks the truth; nor in a helpless sinner leaning on omnipotence; nor in a beggar receiving alms. Faith looks entirely away from itself to another, viz., Christ. Eyes only Christ’s righteousness, not its own; comes empty-handed and receives out of Christ’s fulness (John 1:16); is the window through which the light passes, not the light; glories in Christ’s obedience, but not in its own. Therefore faith is a humble, depending, self-renouncing grace." J. Robinson, D. D

Boasting is excluded, because Gods Blessing is Justification by Faith.

Religious people think that Faith is their contribution, its not, its Gods Contribution. Thats why people cant boast about Faith in Justification

 

[Silverhair]

Boasting is excluded, because Gods Blessing is Justification by Faith.

Religious people think that Faith is their contribution, its not, its Gods Contribution. Thats why people cant boast about Faith in Justification

BF if as you say faith is God's contribution and God's desire is for all to be saved {1 timothy 2:3-4} and yet many do not come to faith as you, I am sure are aware.

That only leaves a few possibilities
1] God told the truth and He wants all to be saved and He just does not have the power to accomplish the task
2] God lied, He really does not want all to be saved and will just pick some at random to be saved
3] God lied, He only wants a select group to be saved

Or you are putting forward an unbiblical idea and faith is man's part.
4] God told the truth, He wants all to be saved but will only save those that freely trust in Him.

 

[Brightfame52]

BF if as you say faith is God's contribution and God's desire is for all to be saved {1 timothy 2:3-4} and yet many do not come to faith as you, I am sure are aware.

That only leaves a few possibilities
1] God told the truth and He wants all to be saved and He just does not have the power to accomplish the task
2] God lied, He really does not want all to be saved and will just pick some at random to be saved
3] God lied, He only wants a select group to be saved

Or you are putting forward an unbiblical idea and faith is man's part.
4] God told the truth, He wants all to be saved but will only save those that freely trust in Him.

Gods promise in the Gospel to Abraham is that He would Justify people by Faith. The reason why some people are Justified by Faith is because God promised He would do it for a seed.

Now people like yourself want to hijack faith in Justification and make it mans conditional contribution. Thats falsifying the Gospel Promise

 

[Silverhair]

Gods promise in the Gospel to Abraham is that He would Justify people by Faith. The reason why some people are Justified by Faith is because God promised He would do it for a seed.

Now people like yourself want to hijack faith in Justification and make it mans conditional contribution. Thats falsifying the Gospel Promise

BF did you just say we have to have faith in Justification. Read your bible BF. We are justified by God because we have faith in Him.

Do you think man is saved prior to them having faith in God?

 

[Brightfame52]

BF did you just say we have to have faith in Justification. Read your bible BF. We are justified by God because we have faith in Him.

Do you think man is saved prior to them having faith in God?

Justification by Faith is Gods doing ! Its a Gospel Promise

 

[Silverhair]

Justification by Faith is Gods doing ! Its a Gospel Promise

BF a person is justified by the grace of God because they believe/have faith in Him. The fact that you cannot grasp this concept leads me to believe that you do not have a good command of the English language. Is that in fact the case?

I agree that only God can justify a person and He will only justify those that have faith in/believe in Him. That is the condition that God set. Why do you continue to deny this?

 

[Brightfame52]

BF a person is justified by the grace of God because they believe/have faith in Him. The fact that you cannot grasp this concept leads me to believe that you do not have a good command of the English language. Is that in fact the case?

I agree that only God can justify a person and He will only justify those that have faith in/believe in Him. That is the condition that God set. Why do you continue to deny this?

Justification by Faith is Gods doing ! Its a Gospel Promise

 

[Silverhair]

Justification by Faith is Gods doing ! Its a Gospel Promise

Your childish responses are telling BF. You have no support for your claim so like a fool you keep saying the same thing hoping for a different outcome.

 

[Van]

God Justifies by Faith. It reads Rom 3:30

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

Its a unified whole, God gives the Spiritual Blessing of " Justification by Faith"

1) Here we have the repeated ambiguity. God justifies "by" faith. But just what this means is left for inference.

2) The Greek preposition translated as "by" is "ek" meaning out from or arising from, and is frequently best translated as "based on" which I have addressed numerous times.

3) The Greek prepostion translated as "through" is "dia" meaning by means of, and would best be translated as "by means of acquired faith. The Jews already believed in God and His promises, the Gentiles had to first acquire that faith.

 

[Brightfame52]

Your childish responses are telling BF. You have no support for your claim so like a fool you keep saying the same thing hoping for a different outcome.

To be Justified by or through Faith is the result of Gods Promise Read Rom 3:30

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

Notice, He shall do it, thats a Promise, its not conditioned on the sinner

 

[Brightfame52]

1) Here we have the repeated ambiguity. God justifies "by" faith. But just what this means is left for inference.

2) The Greek preposition translated as "by" is "ek" meaning out from or arising from, and is frequently best translated as "based on" which I have addressed numerous times.

3) The Greek prepostion translated as "through" is "dia" meaning by means of, and would best be translated as "by means of acquired faith. The Jews already believed in God and His promises, the Gentiles had to first acquire that faith.

To be Justified by or through Faith is the result of Gods Promise Read Rom 3:30

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

Notice, He shall do it, thats a Promise its not conditioned on the sinner

 

[Silverhair]

To be Justified by or through Faith is the result of Gods Promise Read Rom 3:30

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

Notice, He shall do it, thats a Promise, its not conditioned on the sinner

As I said BF, one is only justified by God because they believe.

Do you think that one is justified/saved when they do not believe?