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Justified while Ungodly !
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he accepts the truth, NOT your misunderstanding of it!
savedbymercy
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Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity
Anyone that God has laid their iniquity upon Christ, and so are that man or woman it can be said of this Ps 32:2
Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.
Yet by Nature they do commit iniquity in and of themselves, but in God's Justice it can never be charged to them or imputed to them.
The word imputeth here is the hebrew word chashab and means, to reckon, to charge, or purpose
And so consequently, God never see's them, or regards them as other men as workers of Iniquity as per Ps 5:5
5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Neither can they ever be condemned in the day of Judgment as these Matt 7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Anyone that God has laid their iniquity upon Christ, and so are that man or woman it can be said of this Ps 32:2
Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.
Yet by Nature they do commit iniquity in and of themselves, but in God's Justice it can never be charged to them or imputed to them.
The word imputeth here is the hebrew word chashab and means, to reckon, to charge, or purpose
And so consequently, God never see's them, or regards them as other men as workers of Iniquity as per Ps 5:5
5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Neither can they ever be condemned in the day of Judgment as these Matt 7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
savedbymercy
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Put away sin !
Heb 9:26
For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
Christ's sacrifice of Himself, or His Blood hath put away the sins of all those He died, His Blood Alone did that ! The words put away are the greek word athetēsis:
abolition, disannulling, put away, rejection
to thwart the efficacy of anything, nullify, make void, frustrate
to do away with; put an end to; annul; make void:
Daniel wrote of this here Dan 9:24
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Christ's blood did away with the sins that could condemn anyone Christ died for, yes even before they are born ! All the punishment they did deserve, Christ accepted of the Father on their behalf !
Now some false teachers tell us, that Christ's blood shed or offering alone, that in and of itself it is worthless, that without the work of the Holy Spirit it is meaningless, as if the Holy Spirit had something to do with putting away our sins by satisfying God's Law and Justice; Folks for anyone or any man to say that Christ's Death is worthless in and of itself, is nothing but an Antichrist !
Those Christ did die for, and had their sins put away from the view of God's Law and Justice, they have reason to punished ever for any sin, even if they never experienced a work of the Spirit in their lives ! I am not saying that it ever happened, or that God ever did it like that, but the point being, Christ's death alone took care of their sin problem due to condemnation.
We know this is True because even when those Christ died for are born by Nature enemies to God, while in unbelief, scripture says they have already been reconciled to God by the Death of His Son, meaning by His sacrifice of Himself that put away their sins before God's Law and Justice.
Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
So by His Death alone, all for whom Christ died are legally reconciled to God, no sins or condemnation exist against them, even before they are experientially saved by the work of the Holy Spirit ! Yes, they are still in a state of forgiveness of sins and Justification before God, based upon the sacrifice of Christ alone, when they are born unbelievers and enemies, for anyone to deny this, is Antichrist and knows not God !
Heb 9:26
For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
Christ's sacrifice of Himself, or His Blood hath put away the sins of all those He died, His Blood Alone did that ! The words put away are the greek word athetēsis:
abolition, disannulling, put away, rejection
to thwart the efficacy of anything, nullify, make void, frustrate
to do away with; put an end to; annul; make void:
Daniel wrote of this here Dan 9:24
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Christ's blood did away with the sins that could condemn anyone Christ died for, yes even before they are born ! All the punishment they did deserve, Christ accepted of the Father on their behalf !
Now some false teachers tell us, that Christ's blood shed or offering alone, that in and of itself it is worthless, that without the work of the Holy Spirit it is meaningless, as if the Holy Spirit had something to do with putting away our sins by satisfying God's Law and Justice; Folks for anyone or any man to say that Christ's Death is worthless in and of itself, is nothing but an Antichrist !
Those Christ did die for, and had their sins put away from the view of God's Law and Justice, they have reason to punished ever for any sin, even if they never experienced a work of the Spirit in their lives ! I am not saying that it ever happened, or that God ever did it like that, but the point being, Christ's death alone took care of their sin problem due to condemnation.
We know this is True because even when those Christ died for are born by Nature enemies to God, while in unbelief, scripture says they have already been reconciled to God by the Death of His Son, meaning by His sacrifice of Himself that put away their sins before God's Law and Justice.
Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
So by His Death alone, all for whom Christ died are legally reconciled to God, no sins or condemnation exist against them, even before they are experientially saved by the work of the Holy Spirit ! Yes, they are still in a state of forgiveness of sins and Justification before God, based upon the sacrifice of Christ alone, when they are born unbelievers and enemies, for anyone to deny this, is Antichrist and knows not God !
Put away sin !
Heb 9:26
For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
Christ's sacrifice of Himself, or His Blood hath put away the sins of all those He died, His Blood Alone did that ! The words put away are the greek word athetēsis:
abolition, disannulling, put away, rejection
to thwart the efficacy of anything, nullify, make void, frustrate
to do away with; put an end to; annul; make void:
Daniel wrote of this here Dan 9:24
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Christ's blood did away with the sins that could condemn anyone Christ died for, yes even before they are born ! All the punishment they did deserve, Christ accepted of the Father on their behalf !
Now some false teachers tell us, that Christ's blood shed or offering alone, that in and of itself it is worthless, that without the work of the Holy Spirit it is meaningless, as if the Holy Spirit had something to do with putting away our sins by satisfying God's Law and Justice; Folks for anyone or any man to say that Christ's Death is worthless in and of itself, is nothing but an Antichrist !
Those Christ did die for, and had their sins put away from the view of God's Law and Justice, they have reason to punished ever for any sin, even if they never experienced a work of the Spirit in their lives ! I am not saying that it ever happened, or that God ever did it like that, but the point being, Christ's death alone took care of their sin problem due to condemnation.
We know this is True because even when those Christ died for are born by Nature enemies to God, while in unbelief, scripture says they have already been reconciled to God by the Death of His Son, meaning by His sacrifice of Himself that put away their sins before God's Law and Justice.
Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
So by His Death alone, all for whom Christ died are legally reconciled to God, no sins or condemnation exist against them, even before they are experientially saved by the work of the Holy Spirit ! Yes, they are still in a state of forgiveness of sins and Justification before God, based upon the sacrifice of Christ alone, when they are born unbelievers and enemies, for anyone to deny this, is Antichrist and knows not God !
The truine God is directly involved in salvation process, as the Son died in payment to the fatherfor sins dent owed Him, the Spirit convict/reproves/open herats and minds/grants faith/repentance towards the elect of God, while we receive him by faith, and are saved byt he father effectually apply grace towards us!
savedbymercy
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Justified by His Grace before the world began !
Rom 3:24
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Titus 3:7
That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
This Grace by which God's Elect are Justified was given them in Him before the world began 2 Tim 1:9
9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
So if Grace was given them so early, then Justification by that Grace was given to at the same date !
Also were they accepted in Him at that date ! Eph 1:4-6
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
6 To the praise of the glory of his grace [Given 2 Tim 1:9], wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
Rom 3:24
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Titus 3:7
That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
This Grace by which God's Elect are Justified was given them in Him before the world began 2 Tim 1:9
9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
So if Grace was given them so early, then Justification by that Grace was given to at the same date !
Also were they accepted in Him at that date ! Eph 1:4-6
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
6 To the praise of the glory of his grace [Given 2 Tim 1:9], wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
savedbymercy
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What false religion does not know and understand, but at the same time that Christ was setup as the Surety of the Everlasting Covenant, the transgressions of all He represented, all the Father gave Him, they were charged to Him or imputed to Him, and so at that time they were discharged from all their guilt they would incur and declared Righteous or Justified !
savedbymercy
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When Paul teaches that one is Justified by Faith, Rom 5:1, he does not mean as the false teachers tell us, that one is Justified before God because of our act of faith or of believing, but that God given Faith embraces a Righteousness revealed to it, that was not our own Rom 1:16-17
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
17 For therein[The Gospel of Christ] is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Phil 3:9
9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
The false teachers tells us that God counts their own faith as their Righteousness, which contradicts this very Truth !
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
17 For therein[The Gospel of Christ] is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Phil 3:9
9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
The false teachers tells us that God counts their own faith as their Righteousness, which contradicts this very Truth !
savedbymercy
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The ungodly Elect are Justified by the blood of Christ alone before God's bar of Justice, before they know of it and embrace it by Faith, and so Rom 5:1 means that God given Faith has now embraced or received the fact of having been afore time Justified by Christ's Blood Rom 5:9 or His Grace Titus 3:7; 2 Tim 1:9; It is then Faith introduces us into the Grace that we stand Rom 5:2 in before God because of the Blood and Merits of Christ on our behalf !
The NASB is good here for Rom 5:2
through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God.
However the Elect's whole unconverted life was spent under the Justifying blood of Christ, being preserved until being called Jude 1:1
Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:
Calling follows being preserved. Paul recognized his preservation until called also by grace Gal 1:15
15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
You see, regardless if we realize it by faith or not, the Blood of Christ has paid the sin debt one owed to God's Law and Justice, that was incurred in Adam and in our own physical persons. You see it is the Blood of Christ that had the Justifying merit before God, not our act of believing it ! Our believing it is only God giving us our own comfort and assurance of it !
The NASB is good here for Rom 5:2
through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God.
However the Elect's whole unconverted life was spent under the Justifying blood of Christ, being preserved until being called Jude 1:1
Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:
Calling follows being preserved. Paul recognized his preservation until called also by grace Gal 1:15
15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
You see, regardless if we realize it by faith or not, the Blood of Christ has paid the sin debt one owed to God's Law and Justice, that was incurred in Adam and in our own physical persons. You see it is the Blood of Christ that had the Justifying merit before God, not our act of believing it ! Our believing it is only God giving us our own comfort and assurance of it !
savedbymercy
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The man of sin religionists have hijacked the Gift of Faith that is given in Holy Spirit wrought conversion, and have made it instead, the one good work man can do to get himself saved ! This is flat out denial of Eph 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Also Titus 3:5
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
However this their vile act will so be exposed at Judgment Day, which is rapidly approaching !
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Also Titus 3:5
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
However this their vile act will so be exposed at Judgment Day, which is rapidly approaching !
The man of sin religionists have hijacked the Gift of Faith that is given in Holy Spirit wrought conversion, and have made it instead, the one good work man can do to get himself saved ! This is flat out denial of Eph 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Also Titus 3:5
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
However this their vile act will so be exposed at Judgment Day, which is rapidly approaching !
GE:
Amen
The ungodly Elect are Justified by the blood of Christ alone before God's bar of Justice, before they know of it and embrace it by Faith, and so Rom 5:1 means that God given Faith has now embraced or received the fact of having been afore time Justified by Christ's Blood Rom 5:9 or His Grace Titus 3:7; 2 Tim 1:9; It is then Faith introduces us into the Grace that we stand Rom 5:2 in before God because of the Blood and Merits of Christ on our behalf !
The NASB is good here for Rom 5:2
through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God.
However the Elect's whole unconverted life was spent under the Justifying blood of Christ, being preserved until being called Jude 1:1
Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:
Calling follows being preserved. Paul recognized his preservation until called also by grace Gal 1:15
15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
You see, regardless if we realize it by faith or not, the Blood of Christ has paid the sin debt one owed to God's Law and Justice, that was incurred in Adam and in our own physical persons. You see it is the Blood of Christ that had the Justifying merit before God, not our act of believing it ! Our believing it is only God giving us our own comfort and assurance of it !
GE:
Amen, yes Amen!
savedbymercy
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About Faith !
Whether one believes a fact or not believe it, neither way is the act causative of what may exist before it, so it is with the Nature of Faith, when God reveals through the Gospel ones Justification and Righteousness and Remission of sins based solely upon the Person and Work of Jesus Christ, His Blood, that which is being revealed is an already established fact or truth, and the Spirit in us bears Witness to it! So that those Christ has died for, and satisfied God's Law and Justice on their behalf, are Justified, made Righteous and forgiven before they believe it. It is an error to believe that the God given Faith for us to believe, is the cause of those Blessings, but its the means that God gives for us to receive the Spiritual Knowledge of those things, and the Peace and Joy in Knowing ! Rom 15:13
Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.
Whether one believes a fact or not believe it, neither way is the act causative of what may exist before it, so it is with the Nature of Faith, when God reveals through the Gospel ones Justification and Righteousness and Remission of sins based solely upon the Person and Work of Jesus Christ, His Blood, that which is being revealed is an already established fact or truth, and the Spirit in us bears Witness to it! So that those Christ has died for, and satisfied God's Law and Justice on their behalf, are Justified, made Righteous and forgiven before they believe it. It is an error to believe that the God given Faith for us to believe, is the cause of those Blessings, but its the means that God gives for us to receive the Spiritual Knowledge of those things, and the Peace and Joy in Knowing ! Rom 15:13
Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.
savedbymercy
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A Note Worthy Quote about Faith in Salvation !
Faith
Faith is the evidence and manifestation of justification, and therefore justification must be before it; “Faith is the evidence of things not seen”, (Heb. 11:1) but it is not the evidence of that which as yet is not; what it is an evidence of, must be, and it must exist before it. The “righteousness of God”, of the God-man and mediator Jesus Christ, “is revealed from faith to faith”, in the everlasting gospel, (Rom. 1:17) and therefore must be before it is revealed, and before faith, to which it is revealed: faith is that grace whereby a soul, having seen its guilt, and its want of righteousness, beholds, in the light of the divine Spirit, a complete righteousness in Christ, renounces its own, lays hold off that, puts it on as a garment, rejoices in it, and glories of it; the Spirit of God witnessing to his spirit, that he is a justified person; and so he is evidently and declaratively “justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God” (1 Cor. 6:11). John Gill {Body of Divinity}
savedbymercy
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In the Mind of God !
In the Mind of God , a Person whom Christ died in behalf of is no more Justified after they believe, than they were before they believed, for God's Justification of one does not depend upon the act of man, which believing is, for if we believe not, He remains faithful [to the Covenant with His Son] and that is to Justify by His Blood, all for whom He died and Represented !
In the Mind of God , a Person whom Christ died in behalf of is no more Justified after they believe, than they were before they believed, for God's Justification of one does not depend upon the act of man, which believing is, for if we believe not, He remains faithful [to the Covenant with His Son] and that is to Justify by His Blood, all for whom He died and Represented !
savedbymercy
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It is not Faith itself that Justifies the Elect, but God Himself Rom 8:33
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
It is He that Imputes Righteousness unto them on behalf of Christ's Work for them, and that is what Faith has at it's view when God reveals this Righteousness Inputed by the Preaching of the Gospel to them Rom 1:16-17, so it is each child of Abraham will as Abraham did, have the Gospel Preached individually to them Gal 3:8
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
By the Spirit's application of it to their minds and hearts, and God given Faith will embrace it and embrace Him that did Justify, God or God through Christ Isa 53:11
11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
It is He that Imputes Righteousness unto them on behalf of Christ's Work for them, and that is what Faith has at it's view when God reveals this Righteousness Inputed by the Preaching of the Gospel to them Rom 1:16-17, so it is each child of Abraham will as Abraham did, have the Gospel Preached individually to them Gal 3:8
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
By the Spirit's application of it to their minds and hearts, and God given Faith will embrace it and embrace Him that did Justify, God or God through Christ Isa 53:11
11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
savedbymercy
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In the Mind of God !
In the Mind of God , a Person whom Christ died in behalf of is no more Justified after they believe, than they were before they believed, for God's Justification of one does not depend upon the act of man, which believing is, for if we believe not, He remains faithful [to the Covenant with His Son] and that is to Justify by His Blood, all for whom He died and Represented !
An interest in the Covenant of Grace
All for whom Christ died, do have a real Interest in the Covenant of Grace or the Everlasting Covenant, and therefore it is of Him, Their Shepherd, to reveal to them His Covenant Ps 25:14
The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.
It is written of all the Children of the Covenant, which also is the Seed of Christ, they shall all be taught of God Jn 6:45
45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
To understand who the all are, Lets look back in the prophets where Jesus quotes from here Isa 54:13
13 And all thy children shall be taught of the Lord; and great shall be the peace of thy children.
Now the word shew in Ps 25:14 is the hebrew word yada` and it does carry the ideal of instructed :
1) to be made known, be or become known, be revealed
2) to make oneself known
3) to be perceived
4) to be instructed
c) (Piel) to cause to know
d) (Poal) to cause to know
And this ties in with the Children that shall be taught of the Lord in Isa 54:13 and of course Jn 6:45
The word taught Jn 6:45 is the greek word didaktos which means:
that can be taught
2) taught, instructed by one
3) teachings, precepts
All whom Christ died for as their Covenant Head and Surety, their Shepherd, has an Interest in the Covenant and so shall be instructed in it, and learn of it experientially ! These will all come to Faith in Christ who is why they are beneficiaries of the Covenant in the First Place !
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Justified before and after Faith !
The Elect of God does not receive a knowledge or spiritual comfort of their Justification before God before Faith, however all of them in spite of their knowledge of it, are free from any condemnation and eternal vengeance that belongs to their sins, even before they become believers, for they all were accepted in the Beloved, and declared Righteous by the Father, because non of their sins had been imputed to them ! Eph 1:4-6, and they were totally absolved of any Punishment due them before they believed as after they believed, because the Redemption price had already been paid for their remission, all their sins had been born 1 Pet 2:24, The Soul of Christ had been Offered for them Isa 53:10
Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
So the Elect of God are born Children of wrath as others by nature, but with this difference, they are absolved from all obligation to do anything that gives to God the least satisfaction for their sins, this before he receives the knowledge of the remission of sins by Faith !
The Elect of God does not receive a knowledge or spiritual comfort of their Justification before God before Faith, however all of them in spite of their knowledge of it, are free from any condemnation and eternal vengeance that belongs to their sins, even before they become believers, for they all were accepted in the Beloved, and declared Righteous by the Father, because non of their sins had been imputed to them ! Eph 1:4-6, and they were totally absolved of any Punishment due them before they believed as after they believed, because the Redemption price had already been paid for their remission, all their sins had been born 1 Pet 2:24, The Soul of Christ had been Offered for them Isa 53:10
Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
So the Elect of God are born Children of wrath as others by nature, but with this difference, they are absolved from all obligation to do anything that gives to God the least satisfaction for their sins, this before he receives the knowledge of the remission of sins by Faith !
The Elect of God does not receive a knowledge or spiritual comfort of their Justification before God before Faith, however all of them in spite of their knowledge of it, are free from any condemnation and eternal vengeance that belongs to their sins, even before they become believers, for they all were accepted in the Beloved, and declared Righteous by the Father, because non of their sins had been imputed to them ! Eph 1:4-6, and they were totally absolved of any Punishment due them before they believed as after they believed, because the Redemption price had already been paid for their remission, all their sins had been born 1 Pet 2:24, The Soul of Christ had been Offered for them Isa 53:10
Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
So the Elect of God are born Children of wrath as others by nature, but with this difference, they are absolved from all obligation to do anything that gives to God the least satisfaction for their sins, this before he receives the knowledge of the remission of sins by Faith !
ALL are under the judgement/condemnation of God UNTIL they have received jesus by faith!