Kanye just dropped the 'Republicans freed the slaves' bomb...

[FollowTheWay]

You mean like fighting for life? Hmmm. because I don't see you following this command.



And yet you fight against those fighting abortion, which is very peculiar. Your a blessing to the abortionists.

Trump, OTOH, is the most pro-life president it our nations history. And yet you fight his efforts daily. How will you explain this to the Jesus you say your follow?

I'm still waiting for the Republican party to do much of anything about abortion. You have the majority on the Supreme Court now. I haven't heard about any effort to strike down the Roe vs. Wade decision brought by a Republican majority Supreme Court (6 R's and 3 D's) 45 years ago. How much longer will it take for action from the GOP? 100 years?

 

[Baptist Believer]

I've never heard Baptist Believer ever call out ITL for his nicknaming. Wonder why?

Frankly, I haven't noticed much of it. I noticed that the moderators have edited/deleted his posts from time to time, but he is quite mild compared to others. The one you called out appeared to me to be a typo. I looked it up and now see that he is describing your actions. It's quite clever, but I did not know it was intentional. Perhaps if you would stop lying about him, he wouldn't feel the need to describe your bad behavior. He shouldn't do it, regardless.

 

[Calminian]

I'm still waiting for the Republican party to do much of anything about abortion. You have the majority on the Supreme Court now. I haven't heard about any effort to strike down the Roe vs. Wade decision brought by a Republican majority Supreme Court (6 R's and 3 D's) 45 years ago. How much longer will it take for action from the GOP? 100 years?

And I'm waiting for you to actually care about the unborn.

And no, we don't have a majority. Kennedy still swings the other way on abortion. But he may retire this year. I'm sure you'll be praying for Trump if he does.

 

[777]

broken record.

I know a modest number of people who are bipolar, including some family members, and Kanye West strikes me as a classic example of the condition. He goes through manic phases (like now) and then through deep depression, where he is very quiet, but you will see photos of him looking like he is deeply depressed.

Well, I wouldn't go as far as this and claim Kanyne is bipolar but there are some of the signs there:

the depression:

Kanye West: 'I contemplated suicide'

the excitability:

Kanye West will not be prosecuted for angry airport attack on photographer | Daily Mail Online

the delusions of grandeur:

Kanye West 'Compares Himself To Nelson Mandela' After Storming Off Stage During Florida Show » Entertainmentwise

and he claimed he was going to run for POTUS in 2016. Can't you see why he would be attracted and repelled to Trump at the same time?

and there;s plenty of evidence for more erratic behavior. Kanye has been accused of being a narcissist like Trump but most politicians and entertainers are to a degree.

 

[Calminian]

broken record.



Well, I wouldn't go as far as this and claim Kanyne is bipolar but there are some of the signs there:

the depression:

Kanye West: 'I contemplated suicide'

the excitability:

Kanye West will not be prosecuted for angry airport attack on photographer | Daily Mail Online

the delusions of grandeur:

Kanye West 'Compares Himself To Nelson Mandela' After Storming Off Stage During Florida Show » Entertainmentwise

and he claimed he was going to run for POTUS in 2016. Can't you see why he would be attracted and repelled to Trump at the same time?

and there;s plenty of evidence for more erratic behavior. Kanye has been accused of being a narcissist like Trump but most politicians and entertainers are to a degree.

I wonder how you "experts" would diagnose Paul and King David.

 

[Baptist Believer]

I wonder how you "experts" would diagnose Paul and King David.

We not claim expertise, so I don't know why you put that word in quotes.

I see no evidence of mental illness in Paul or David. David had some huge moral problems, but he was a man of his time and things were quite savage in that age.

 

[Calminian]

...I suspect that Baptist Believer doesn't call me out on it because he agrees with me.

I agree.

 

[InTheLight]

I'm still waiting for the Republican party to do much of anything about abortion. You have the majority on the Supreme Court now. I haven't heard about any effort to strike down the Roe vs. Wade decision brought by a Republican majority Supreme Court (6 R's and 3 D's) 45 years ago. How much longer will it take for action from the GOP? 100 years?

IOWA CITY, Iowa — Republicans who control a majority of the nation's statehouses are considering a wide range of abortion legislation that could test the government's legal ability to restrict a woman's right to terminate pregnancy.

The Mississippi House passed a bill Friday that would make the state the only one to ban all abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. In Missouri, lawmakers heard testimony earlier in the week on a bill that would ban abortions after 20 weeks.

The Ohio House is expected to consider bills, already passed in the Senate, that would prohibit the most common type of procedure used to end pregnancies after 13 weeks and require that fetal remains be buried or cremated.

Abortion is a perennial hot button issue in statehouses across the country. Republican-controlled states have passed hundreds of bills since 2011 restricting access to the procedure while Democratic-led states have taken steps in the other direction.

Abortion is a focus of early action in legislative sessions

 

[InTheLight]

And I stand by my words. Pro-lifers are those that fight for life at the voting booth. All democrats claim they are anti-aborton. I don't agree. Nor do I agree with those who sit out of elections. If you stand by and let it happen, you are not pro-life. Call me any name you like. I welcome it. I will never believe you are pro-life until you support the pro-life candidate running for President. That's my opinion. I will never change it.

So, your position is, "If you didn't vote for Trump, you're not pro-life."

 

[777]

You're not talking about me, not pro-choice in any sense of the word and agree 100% with the GOP platform on this issue. However, it is entrenched in American culture and getting rid of it is like putting toothpaste back into the tube since most Americans don't agree with me.

We not claim expertise, so I don't know why you put that word in quotes.

I see no evidence of mental illness in Paul or David. David had some huge moral problems, but he was a man of his time and things were quite savage in that age.

Somebody told me once David was a sociopath and Paul was a paranoid schizophrenic. No real "expert" could or would diagnose them or anyone else over the internet without extensive testing and observation over time in real life. All I was saying that narcissistic and bipolar traits are present in Trump and Kanye but that doesn't mean they should be in straitjackets.

This is MY "take" on some of your political ideology, could be wrong, this is just what I've observed:

you - slightly right-of-center, you claim conservatives call you a liberal, true test is do liberals call you a conservative? If so, you are a moderate

Cal - a Trump supporter, core

Follow - Democrat, pro-life but feels he has nowhere to go

Wingman - conservative, Trump supporter

Light (and that other guy named after an old band) - conservatives that are put off by Trump, don't trust him partly because he's a relatively recent convert to the cause.

 

[Calminian]

It's not about Trump. It is for you, but it's not for true pro-lifers. If you hate Trump more than you love the unborn, you are not pro-life. You are so bitter about Trump that you're willing to allow thousands of babies to continue to be snuffed out, your moral compass is totally out of wack. I couldn't stand Romney, but voted for life. Had I not, I would have been guilty of not supporting the unborn and would have had not right to call myself pro-life.

That's my position. I'll brace for the insults, and any consequences it brings.

 

[Calminian]

....This is MY "take" on some of your political ideology, could be wrong, this is just what I've observed:

you - slightly right-of-center, you claim conservatives call you a liberal, true test is do liberals call you a conservative? If so, you are a moderate

Cal - a Trump supporter, core

Follow - Democrat, pro-life but feels he has nowhere to go

Wingman - conservative, Trump supporter

Light (and that other guy named after an old band) - conservatives that are put off by Trump, don't trust him partly because he's a relatively recent convert to the cause.

And there you go. We all have opinion and they all should be allowed. You say ITL is a moderate, I say left of center.

BTW, 777, wishy-washy conservative. Not willing to put up a fight. My take. I could be wrong. (Just to inform you, we're one justice away from having a conservative pro-life court for the first time in 45 years. No, it's not as hard as getting toothpaste back in the tube. You just need to have the stomach to fight.)

 

[Calminian]

I want everyone to bookmark this post if you doubt that Calminian is dishonest. Here is what 777 said about me:




And here is what Calminian said about what 777 said about me:



Game over.

Oh, I see. Well, yes, I thought the "you" was you, and now I see the "you" was Baptist Believer.

So yes, I'm capable of making mistakes, and willing to admit them. My apologies. I'm sure you'll consider accepting, but your hate for me seems very apparent. Hope I'm wrong, but isn't it obvious that's the mistake I made? You could have just pointed it out, instead of accusing me of lying.

I will say, though, this exemplifies just about every accusation you've thrown at me. If I so much as misread a quote, I'm lying.

 

[777]

I'm going to put more stock on how people describe their ideology since they ought to know themselves better than some person the internet but there are people on the far right and left that think they are the center and anybody else else is an extremist.

BTW, 777, wishy-washy conservative. Not willing to put up a fight. My take. I could be wrong. (Just to inform you, we're one justice away from having a conservative pro-life court for the first time in 45 years. No, it's not as hard as getting toothpaste back in the tube. You just need to have the stomach to fight.)

No, not my point - even if SCOTUS repealed RvW, all it would do is to revert it back to the states and that wouldn't wouldn't change a thing in a state like here, NY, or CA - pre-RvW, you had basically abortion on demand in all three. Follow has about the same perspective on it as Reagan had from what's he written here, Reagan was against it except in cases of rape, incest, life or health of the mother, and there's the catch, "health", interpreted to many for any reason. He was tricked into signing the biggest pro-abortion legislation at that time this way.

Nobody cared, and you have a country that often tops a million a year and they don't see anything wrong with it. Yelling at people isn't going to help.

 

[TCassidy]

I'm not sure if he is away voluntarily or if he was booted from the site.

He is not banned. His absence is of his own choice.

 

[Calminian]

I'm going to put more stock on how people describe their ideology since they ought to know themselves better than some person the internet but there are people on the far right and left that think they are the center and anybody else else is an extremist.



No, not my point - even if SCOTUS repealed RvW, all it would do is to revert it back to the states and that wouldn't wouldn't change a thing in a state like here, NY, or CA - pre-RvW, you had basically abortion on demand in all three. Follow has about the same perspective on it as Reagan had from what's he written here, Reagan was against it except in cases of rape, incest, life or health of the mother, and there's the catch, "health", interpreted to many for any reason. He was tricked into signing the biggest pro-abortion legislation at that time this way.

Nobody cared, and you have a country that often tops a million a year and they don't see anything wrong with it. Yelling at people isn't going to help.

You're just not informed, and this is the problem with many in the Christian community. That's all I can say. RvW was huge in accelerating abortions. If you don't think the reversal of RvW will dramatically reduce abortions you don't understand the issue. And that's probably why you fight so half-heartedly.

The proof is simple. If RvW didn't matter, why 60 million abortions since RvW? Why did it skyrocket? Very simple. It became a national entitlement. Doing away with RvW would reverse this message, and legislatures would regain power over the the issue, as would voters. You would see a huge decline and millions of hearts changed, just like they were changed against slavery.

 

[Wingman68]

That was a good move by the SBC but it didn't come easily.
"The fact it took nearly 24 hours to pass such a resolution clearly disturbed McKissic, however. "I think that today's vote will help to mitigate some of the hurt and some of the pain," he said, "because it's painful to watch people who tout biblical inerrancy and who tout the centrality of the Gospel have to deliberate over denouncing white supremacy."

I suppose that was far better than the 150 years it took for them to renounce slavery (1845-1995).

The darling of white evangelicals, Trump, never really rejected the support of the KKK or the Neo-Nazi's. The newspaper I quoted before is from G Britain. The world knows what kind of a man Trump is. So you claim he did more for blacks than Obama. Interesting. What has Trump done for blacks (with proof)?

I don’t have to provide proof. The unemployment numbers speak for themselves.
BTW, if I had to choose between being alt right & democrat, it would be alt right. Some have painted the alt right to suit their needs, the real alt right is an internet entity. I would be happy to provide you with a description, but doubt you would read it, so I won’t be bothered.

 

[Wingman68]

He is not banned. His absence is of his own choice.

Thank you, sir. I am relieved to hear it, as I had not considered that possibility until BB brought it up.

 

[Calminian]

Kanye on a role. Even apologized to Bush. Now that's really going to cause a frenzy.

Kanye West: Obama Was ‘Opioids’ to the Black Community

Rap Superstar Kanye West described former President Barack Obama as the “opioids” of the black community, during an interview with TMZ’s Harvey Levin on Tuesday.
by CHARLIE SPIERING265

…MORE OUTRAGE OVER ME WEARING MAGA HAT THAN BLACK-ON-BLACK CRIME…
by CHARLIE SPIERING46

…APOLOGIZES TO DUBYA FOR ’05 COMMENT
by CHARLIE SPIERING

 

[777]

You're just not informed, and this is the problem with many in the Christian community. That's all I can say. RvW was huge in accelerating abortions. If you don't think the reversal of RvW will dramatically reduce abortions you don't understand the issue. And that's probably why you fight so half-heartedly.

The proof is simple. If RvW didn't matter, why 60 million abortions since RvW? Why did it skyrocket? Very simple. It became a national entitlement. Doing away with RvW would reverse this message, and legislatures would regain power over the the issue, as would voters. You would see a huge decline and millions of hearts changed, just like they were changed against slavery.

Again, that's not what I said - I don't think you can ever get rid of abortion altogether in this country now and it's not like slavery really - slavery was never mandated nationwide by SCOTUS like abortion was.

Look what happened to Russia, the commies went pro-abort so much Stalin put an end to it for almost twenty years, then when it was legalized again, they were right back to their sky-high rates and they still are among the highest rates in the world. That's a change of policy there, not hearts.

Now your last two sentences are correct and there are all these "trigger laws" already in place in case RvW is overturned, and it almost was a few years back, Kennedy got cold feet at the last minute.

I'll go a step further - it will be overturned, within fifteen years and until then, it'll keep being chipped away. Trump is putting the right people in the federal judiciary to do so. Stare decisis worked for slavery and the Taney court, too, until we woke.