Kerry Heckler Tasered

[LeBuick]

Yeah he's a domestic terrorist for sure. I provided the link to his website. Hanging is too good for this one! I would suggest electro shock therapy for anyone who fails to conform to our way of thinking. Water boarding, stress positions and sensory deprivation for prolonged periods aren't bad second choices imho. :saint:

What happened to the good ole days when you would show up at the jail beaten and the officers claimed you resisted while in custody. Times sure do change...

 

[carpro]

People are often quick to judge the actions of the police, but if the kid had pulled a gun and shot a couple of people, then everybody would have been asking, why they didn't do anything to prevent it from happening. They expect law enforcement to be perfect. Sad.
If the kid had gotten his butt worn out more he would not be a narcissistic spoiled brat.

Publicity was his goal. He got it.

http://www.starbanner.com/article/20070918/NEWS/70918007/1053/BREAKING_NEWS

Police report student told them: 'You didn't do anything wrong'
BY ALICE WALLACE
The Gainesville Sun

"As (Meyer) was escorted down stairs (at the University Auditorium) with no cameras in sight, he remained quiet, but once the cameras made their way down stairs he started screaming and yelling again," Mallo wrote.
Mallo was one of two officers who actually rode in the vehicle as Meyer was escorted to the Alachua County jail, and she said said he told them during the ride: "I am not mad at you guys, you didn't do anything wrong, you were just trying to do your job," according to Mallo's account.
Mallo also wrote in her report that he asked, at one point, if cameras would be present at the jail.

 

[poncho]

He wanted publicity. He got it, and then some. But, some of the statements made in this thread makes me wonder if people think it's okay for the police to punish people. I didn't think that was part of the job description. That's why we have courts, juries and prisons. Sounds a bit like we're moving towards a Judge Dredd type society.

I am the law!

 

[webdog]

He wanted publicity. He got it, and then some. But, some of the statements made in this thread makes me wonder if people think it's okay for the police to punish people. I didn't think that was part of the job description. That's why we have courts, juries and prisons. Sounds a bit like we're moving towards a Judge Dredd type society.

I am the law!

I agree. The use of a taser was excessive and uncalled for. The guy will sue, and most likely win. Regardless of his motives, the campus police were wrong.

 

[poncho]

Raw Footage.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3ec_1190097717&p=1

 

[Joe]

I agree. The use of a taser was excessive and uncalled for. The guy will sue, and most likely win. Regardless of his motives, the campus police were wrong.

Absolutely. Stopping one's heart through tazer use could mean it not starting again, thus killing the guy. Why? For verbally acting up
This guy could have a mental disorder, be schizophrenic, reacting to prescribed medication in an adverse way, etc..It could be ONE OF US acting up there, you never know. There were plenty of officers around to have the public moved, and then subdue him if needed. No need for this torture.

Please, people, examine your hearts.

 

[poncho]

Beck said he "enjoy watching" Taser videos; O'Reilly rolled out "Don't Taze me, bro!" bumper stickers


"I say hit him with another 50,000 volts."

"I say he was asking for it and deserved every single volt that he got"

"Now, I'd like to say that my sense of humor has evolved past the point where I don't enjoy watching someone get Tasered. I'd like to say that, but I can't. To me, Taser videos are a little like potato chips. I just can't watch just one."

Apparently, it's all in good fun these days to watch police use "pain compliance" techniques on citizens in order to punish them. Maybe it should be made into a sporting event. It'd be alot of laughs to watch before going to the prayer meeting.

 

[webdog]

What happened to the good ole days when you would show up at the jail beaten and the officers claimed you resisted while in custody. Times sure do change...

You condone that behavior and you are a pastor? Wow. The "good ole days"? :tear:

 

[webdog]

People are often quick to judge the actions of the police, but if the kid had pulled a gun and shot a couple of people, then everybody would have been asking, why they didn't do anything to prevent it from happening. They expect law enforcement to be perfect. Sad.
If the kid had gotten his butt worn out more he would not be a narcissistic spoiled brat.

So I guess cops should just taser everyone they pull over or come into contact with. Afterall, everyone may be packing heat ready to throw down at an instant.

 

[Scarlett O.]

I read the entirety of the police report. I can't post the link because the young man was screaming some mildly sexually explicit comments to Mr. Kerry pertaining to Bill Clinton.

After my reading of the police report, I can only conclude that this young man wanted to be tazered and wanted to be filmed being tazered. The woman that he handed the camera to after he screamed at Kerry and announced that the police were going to arrest him when there were no police near him, claimed that she did not know him but she just filmed him.

I highly doubt that.

Well.....he got what he wanted.

 

[webdog]

Who wants to be tazered...especially in light of saying "don't tazer me, bro!"?

 

[Scarlett O.]

Who wants to be tazered...especially in light of saying "don't tazer me, bro!"?

Well, for ordinary people like you and me.....I would say nobody wants to be tazered.

I think his screaming, "Don't taze me, Bro!" was part of his act. This guy has a habit of do foolish things and getting someone to film him. If he really didn't want to be tazered.....if he saw them pulling the tazer out and getting ready....his primal instinct would have been to stop struggling and to comply with what they were asking him to do.


http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/09/18/offense.report.072274.pdf

 

[poncho]

Well, for ordinary people like you and me.....I would say nobody wants to be tazered.

I think his screaming, "Don't taze me, Bro!" was part of his act. This guy has a habit of do foolish things and getting someone to film him. If he really didn't want to be tazered.....if he saw them pulling the tazer out and getting ready....his primal instinct would have been to stop struggling and to comply with what they were asking him to do.


http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/09/18/offense.report.072274.pdf

Okay we figured out he wanted publicity and he may have even wanted to be tasered already. But does that make it right for police to punish people? And I have to disagree with you about primal instincts. I don't think it's natural for anyone that's faced with imminent physical discomfort (pain) to just give up and submit to it. I wouldn't. Of course then I'd be charged with resisting arrest but in reality I would be trying to resist the sudden pain that I knew was coming. Maybe I'm different but that seems more natural to me than to just lay quite and let it happen.

But the main question for me is...what makes you, Glenn Beck, Bill O'Rielly and a couple others in this thread think it's okay for the police to punish people?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

He wasn't punished. He was subdued. There is a huge difference.

 

[poncho]

He wasn't punished. He was subdued. There is a huge difference.

"This is what happens when little children don't hear the word "NO" enough when they're young."

"This kid could have saved himself a zap and criminal charges by just stepping down when his time was up. He chose not to do so and suffered the consequences."

"I believe he got exactly what he deserved."

"I say he was asking for it and deserved every single volt that he got"

Are you telling me that the folks who said these things were actually saying this kid deserved to be subdued? Sounds more like they were saying this kid's "punishment" by the police was justified in their minds to me.

Maybe the folks who made the above statements could clarify for us. What exactly were you all saying this kid "deserved" if it wasn't punishment?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Poncho, I will try and sound respectful. You are demonstrating what is called "cognitive dissonance".

This issue has nothing to do with free speech.

This kid is obviously someone who only considers himself important. (I can't spell "narcissist) I do believe the word "NO" cures that, if applied in time.

These cops have my support. You have to think of the safety of everyone, not just the loud ones.

This guy wasn't punished. He was subdued. Repeat that. Ad infinitum. The people who were punished were the ones who didn't get to ask their questions, because this loudmouth decided only he was important enough to be heard.

But the guy did leave us with an excellent t-shirt & bumper sticker sologan.

BTW, I read he was asking if cameras would be allowed at his arraignment.

 

[Scarlett O.]

And I have to disagree with you about primal instincts. I don't think it's natural for anyone that's faced with imminent physical discomfort (pain) to just give up and submit to it.

I re-read my post and I wasn't clear.

I didn't mean he would submit to the tazing (tasing?) out of instinct.

I meant he would submit to obeying what they were telling him to do to avoid being tazed (tased?). It's just me, but if I were resisting arrest and saw the tazer or the bully club or the pepper spray or some other such tool, I would stop resisting and comply....out of instinct to avoid feeling pain....it's instinctive to avoid pain......and if I felt that I were arrested without cause, then I would scream bloody murder to my lawyer and the judge and the newspaper. But I would comply in order to avoid pain.

But that's just me.

 

[poncho]

Poncho, I will try and sound respectful. You are demonstrating what is called "cognitive dissonance".

I call it trying to understand. But thanks.

This issue has nothing to do with free speech.

We aren't going to totally agree on this, but okay let's get past this part of it.

This kid is obviously someone who only considers himself important. (I can't spell "narcissist) I do believe the word "NO" cures that, if applied in time.

Seems about right to me.

These cops have my support. You have to think of the safety of everyone, not just the loud ones.

As it should be.

This guy wasn't punished. He was subdued. Repeat that. Ad infinitum.

He was subdued then tasered. Maybe that constitutes punishment and maybe it doesn't. I don't know what was in the mind of the police so I can't say, and I'm not saying the cops punished the kid. Okay?

The people who were punished were the ones who didn't get to ask their questions, because this loudmouth decided only he was important enough to be heard.

Right, I understand all that.

But the guy did leave us with an excellent t-shirt & bumper sticker sologan.

I won't be purchasing any.

BTW, I read he was asking if cameras would be allowed at his arraignment.

Well, whatever. None of this has anything to do with what I'm asking.

 

[poncho]

I re-read my post and I wasn't clear.

I didn't mean he would submit to the tazing (tasing?) out of instinct.

I meant he would submit to obeying what they were telling him to do to avoid being tazed (tased?). It's just me, but if I were resisting arrest and saw the tazer or the bully club or the pepper spray or some other such tool, I would stop resisting and comply....out of instinct to avoid feeling pain....it's instinctive to avoid pain......and if I felt that I were arrested without cause, then I would scream bloody murder to my lawyer and the judge and the newspaper. But I would comply in order to avoid pain.

But that's just me.

There is nothing in your posts that are unclear to me. I understand what you are saying alright. It's some of the statements from others that has me wondering. :smilewinkgrin:

 

[menageriekeeper]

He was subdued then tasered.

He was not subdued and then tasered. He was on the ground still struggling with 4 or 5 big cops. If he was subdued, do you think they would have all still been sitting on him? No! they would have been walking him out of the event. He was not subdued enough to remove until he was tased.

Still not feeling sorry for him here. Being subdued sometimes hurts but does not constitute punishment. The punishment for creating this disturbance will come from a jury.