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Khudayr Taher: Europe & America Should Deport all Muslims - Including Myself

Rufus_1611

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2 Timothy2:1-4 said:
I am very aware of the failings of the President especially when it comes to the border. That is part of the problem I am talking about. It most certainly doesn't make the case of the "Do nothings".

It strongly hurts the case of the "Do anythings".
 

Alcott

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C4K said:
Americans must love to live in fear. We feared the Reds in the 50s, we feared a papist president in the 60s, we feared The Bomb in the 60s, now we fear the jihad and global warming.
What is this fascination with fear?

Alright-- is it your position that we cancel security checkpoints at all the airports? If you have seen the original Airport movie (1970), there were no metal detectors or questions about having left one's luggage unattended. Do you want to go back to that, or do you have a fascination with fear?
 

LadyEagle

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LadyEagle said:
Roger, I don't see any Americans living in fear. We are still going about our business, going to work, to school, to church, to the doctor, shopping, building and buying homes, starting small businesses, dining, eating fast foods, going to sporting events, flying and driving all around the country, going on vacations, running errands, attending sporting events and community events, and going about our daily lives - hardly the actions of a population living in fear. Being aware of people whose ideology is to kill us and take over our country and destroy our way of life is a far cry from living in fear.

Posting this again since it seemed to have been missed the first time around.
 

LadyEagle

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Roger, what cherished freedom have you been robbed of? Fear hasn't robbed me of any cherished freedoms, political correctness has robbed me of cherished freedoms - i.e., the government's refusal to do religious profiling and failure to secure our borders. That's what is robbing our cherished freedom - political correctness.
 
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JustChristian

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LadyEagle said:
Internment is not against the Constitution - Habeas Corpus:

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In WW2, 2/3 of those interred were US citizens.


We've already lost the right to Habeas Corpus due to the Patriot Act. Anyone can be held like the prisoners in Guantanamo without being charged with a crime and without access to an attorney.
 

just-want-peace

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The fear runs much deeper than going grocery shopping - it is robbing us of our cherished freedoms.

Care to be more specific, & name a few; or even one?

I've lost more freedom from PC, as LE said, than from any terrorists or fear of same.

I would think, being in the profession you are, that you would be far more concerned about the freedom you just may lose by condemning homosexuality from the pulpit thanks to those who want to push "HATE CRIMES", than being on guard against a terrorist attack!

I guess your and my priorities are a bit different!
 

NaasPreacher (C4K)

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If some have their way the 1st Amendment will be meaningless. There will no longer be any freedom of religion if we start snatching it from those who don't believe like "we" do. Religious profiling in itself is theft of religious liberty.

Restrict the borders - yes. But rob American citizens of their rights? Deport or inter them because of their religious beliefs? I really can't believe I am hearing this!

There does not seem to be an understanding that if we take these freedoms from one group of citizens we may very well be next. Do some of you folks really not believe that the anti-Muslim laws of today are the anti-Christian laws of tomorrow?
 
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Magnetic Poles

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C4K said:
If some have their way the 1st Amendment will be meaningless. There will no longer be any freedom of religion if we start snatching it from those who don't believe like "we" do. Religious profiling in itself is theft of religious liberty.

Restrict the borders - yes. But rob American citizens of their rights? Deport or inter them because of their religious beliefs? I really can't believe I am hearing this!

There does not seem to be an understanding that if we take these freedoms from one group of citizens we may very well be next. Do some of you folks really not believe that the anti-Muslim laws of today are the anti-Christian laws of tomorrow?
Amen, Roger! Very well stated.
 

Alcott

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C4K said:
Do some of you folks really not believe that the anti-Muslim laws of today are the anti-Christian laws of tomorrow?

Yep, some of us don't. Have the anti-Japanese laws of 'yesterday' become the anti-English, anti-Irish, anti-German, anti-Korean, et al, laws of today, or do you think they will be in the future?
 

carpro

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Analgesic said:
To be a CHRISTIAN is to be a Catholic. It is not any different than this: To be Christian one must put their trust in the Pope to correctly interpret their faith in the substitutionary work of Christ Jesus on the Cross. If you SAY you are a Christian without trusting the Pope, you may claim Christianity all day long but you are NOT Christian.

The pope can squat in the corner and contemplate his navel for all I care. His pronouncements and status mean absolutely nothing to me.

What kind of game are you playing?
 

carpro

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C4K said:
Americans must love to live in fear. We feared the Reds in the 50s, we feared a papist president in the 60s, we feared The Bomb in the 60s, now we fear the jihad and global warming.

What is this fascination with fear?

Are you living in fear, Roger?
 

carpro

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Rufus_1611 said:
Roger has it right. This is no longer the land of the free and the home of the brave. It is the land of the skittish and terrified.

So, what is it you are terrified of, Rufus?
 

carpro

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BaptistBeliever said:
We've already lost the right to Habeas Corpus due to the Patriot Act.

You may be afraid you have lost yours, but I haven't lost mine at all.

What else are you afraid of?
 

just-want-peace

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Surprising at the lack of specifics!

Could it happen? A resounding YES!!!

Has it happened; you tell me, BUT be specific and forget the generalities that have been so profuse ij past posts.
 

Analgesic

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carpro said:
The pope can squat in the corner and contemplate his navel for all I care. His pronouncements and status mean absolutely nothing to me.

What kind of game are you playing?

Game...what game? Who's playing a game? Read what I quoted and posted again. Rufus got it.
 

saturneptune

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Analgesic said:
To be a CHRISTIAN is to be a Catholic. It is not any different than this: To be Christian one must put their trust in the Pope to correctly interpret their faith in the substitutionary work of Christ Jesus on the Cross. If you SAY you are a Christian without trusting the Pope, you may claim Christianity all day long but you are NOT Christian.

To be Christian is to be a crusader. And the so-called "moderates" know this. In addition, Christians also know that their allegiance is NOT to their host country but rather it is to Christianity. These "citizens" will help to destroy this country if forced into a choice between Christianity or the US. And CHRISTIANITY is all about world domination.
It is a lot diffferent than that. First of all, the Pope is an idiot. He represents everything that is not the Gospel. If one has to put their faith in the Pope, I am headed for the Lake of Fire.

To be a Christian is to follow Christ and obey the Word of God. Who has destroyed a country lately in the name of Christ? Jesus made it quite clear over and over again that His kingdom was not of this world, to the disappointment of many.

You need to read the New Testement again, and stay away from the Biblical movies.
 

hillclimber1

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2 Timothy2:1-4 said:
What the left wants us to do is to retreat in the name of peace. It appears the left defines peace as the absence of conflict. The right defines peace as the absence of the threat of conflict. If the treat is always looming over us their can be no peace in the lives of Americans.

very very good hill

The WTC was blown up on two occasions. So in the name of peace we ignored the first one. And the second one completely destroyed the WTC. That is where the philosophy of the left got us on this issue.

Amen!

When the right speaks of fear we mean a realization that the enemy is among us and that they want to do it again as soon as they can. The left seems to want to ignore that fact of life so as to avoid any futher conflict. This is a pie in the sky mentality that will get more inoccent Americans killed, not because we stood up to the terroists but they will be killed by inaction. That is the most unjust type of murder in the world. To let people just die because we wanted to do nothing. I cannot comprehend the lefts position that desires to let innocent people die from inaction. It is their ignorance, arrogance, and leftist ideology, and not a desire that innocents die, that drives them, but the resulting deaths of America's citizens is the same. It is indefensable and horrific.

Great post Tim
 
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