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King James Bible vs New age versions

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Bro. Tim L. Bynum

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Things that are different are not the same!
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Pastor KevinR

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Originally posted by Bro. Tim L. Bynum:
1611 only Kevin...
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Hi Bro Tim, thanx for your quick reply! anyhow the 1769 was translated in 1611. you probably have a 1769 (nothing wrong w/ that of course).The 1611 editions are a little hard to find,but findable. I think Nelson Pub sells them hardcover for $30.00 or $40.00. Most KJV's that you find out there was translated in 1611, but modernized in 1769. Have a great day!
 
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Alcott

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Originally posted by QuickeningSpirit:
So answer this for us, Alcott, was John the Beloved the only disciple besides Peter to witness the crucifixion? That might explain the difference, huh? Uh, Matthew, Mark, and uh, definitely Luke, weren't actually there.
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So you think, then, that things different can be the same. You should have quite an argument with little Timmy.

And this is not desecribing different sides of an object; this is saying what was written on a sign. This destroys KJVOnlyism, and definitely destroys the idea that the Bible verbatim cannot be less than perfect, or there would be absolutely no difference whatsover in the words of the sign.
 
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BrianT

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Why is the KJV different from every Bible prior to 1611? Does this mean God's word didn't exist prior to 1611? Remember, things different are not the same.
 
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Ed Edwards

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Originally posted by QuickeningSpirit:
No. She's behaving like my wife the last time we got into it. It's a woman thing. My wife's a sissy too. ;)
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Then your wife must be a wonderful person!
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Dr. Bob

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Originally posted by Bro. Tim L. Bynum:
Ed's life verse . . 1st Timothy 6:4-5 He is proud,knowing nothing,but doting about questions and strifes of words,
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Probably no clearer (and sadder) attack on a person, with venom and guile cloaked in Scripture. That makes me ashamed to have you on the BB, Tim.
 
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tinytim

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Originally posted by Bro. Tim L. Bynum:
1611 only Kevin...oh yra while I`m here...Someone ask TinyTim why he was still posting at 2:12am Sun. Morning...kinda late for a youth pastor...did he go to church ...how `bout you Ed,Mr. Deeper Lifer
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Just so you know, God blessed me with ADHD. I've got to burn energy somehow. And I can't think of a better way than standing for truth.
BTW, I got to church 1/2 hour early today, and heard a great message on who is to blame for Christ's death. You see, youth pastors don't need as much sleep.

BTW, are you going to answer my question, (since you're back) does your church use an actual 1611, or ARE YOU A LIAR when you said in another thread you are 1611 only, only, only...?

I understand what you are saying that things that are different are not the same. The 1611 is not the same as the 1769. BTW, I use a 1873. It is done better than the 1769. It has the original marginal notes of the 1611. You know the ones that in Is 14 include "O day starre"

And I wasn't mocking the 1611 KJB, I figured if your church uses an actual 1611, then you would have no problem understanding it.

(QS there are no long "f"s on my keyboard.
There's a reason. Do you know why?
THEY ARE OUTDATED. Just like the 1611kjb language.) :D

Also, If you are going to quote one verse, don't stop with the comma.
1Ti 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, [even] the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
1Ti 6:4 "He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
1Ti 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself."


BTW, Here's a easier way to say the same thing.

"1Ti 6:3 Whoever teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the true words of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the teaching of our religion
1Ti 6:4 is swollen with pride and knows nothing. He has an unhealthy desire to argue and quarrel about words, and this brings on jealousy, disputes, insults, evil suspicions,
1Ti 6:5 and constant arguments from people whose minds do not function and who no longer have the truth. They think that religion is a way to become rich."
(GNB)


Or as Eugene Peterson puts it:

"1Ti 6:3 If you have leaders there who teach otherwise, who refuse the solid words of our Master Jesus and this godly instruction,
1Ti 6:4 tag them for what they are: ignorant windbags who infect the air with germs of envy, controversy, bad-mouthing, suspicious rumors.
1Ti 6:5 Eventually there's an epidemic of backstabbing, and truth is but a distant memory. They think religion is a way to make a fast buck." (The Message)

Now, will you answer me? Does your church use the actual 1611 KJB?

[ February 08, 2004, 11:26 PM: Message edited by: tinytim ]
 
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tinytim

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Originally posted by Bro. Tim L. Bynum:
Mark 12:37...And the common people heard him gladly.

The greek scholars wouldn`t listen in Jesus`s
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No fair taking one of my favorite verses out of context. Greek was the common language, thanks to Alexander the Great.
That's why Jesus read from the LXX. Are you going to tell Jesus that what he called the word of God, wasn't? Some nerve!! And you talk about Ed being doting. He's not, He's just right!!!


The common people of 2004 read and understand the NIV. or other MB. ( If I must write KJB, Then MV should be changed to MB)

To properly understand the 1611, you must be an olde english scholar. (nothing wrong with that of course)
 
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Bro. Tim L. Bynum

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Cambridge 1611 text only...you have a anger problem ,tiny and my 1611 says make no friends
with an angry man...you need help
By the way...no such thing as ADHD...Your DADDY
just didn`t use his belt enough on your back
side...time outs don`t work. :eek:
 
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Precepts

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Hey,tiny, does this now mean I get awarded a Doctorate of Divinity now?
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(congratulating myself!)

Maybe by what you are saying is a generation gap between 1992 and, uh, 2004?
 
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tinytim

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Yeah, QS, I consider you very scholarly.

And TLB, When you get a Doctors' degree,...
Nah, I still wouldn't believe you.

There is ADHD, and BTW, I got the belt plent of times. We didn't have time out back then.
Just child abuse!!!
 
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Alcott

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Q, for someone who believes things different can be the same, what difference does it make to you?
 
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tinytim

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TLB, do you beat your kids with a belt?
Or are you a father?

I see you answered me (i think) so your pastor preached from the 1611 this morning?

the verse you quoted seems to be from 1769.
I thought you were 1611 only.

No I'm not an angry person. I'm very loving. but when people slander the word of God, and cause division, send nasty emails, and side with liars like the ripper, I get righteously indignant.
 
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Bro. Tim L. Bynum

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If Acts 8:37 was in the original greek ( and
it was ) and it is left out (Omited) from your
NIV, how in God`s dear name can you clain to have
yourself a copy of God`s Word...That goes for
1st John 5:7 and 13 also.
You KNOW it`s not...you just must rebel...which
is as the sin of witchcraft.

No blood on my hands...I told you the truth ! :eek:
 
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