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KJVO is alive and well here at the BB

Piper

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Man, the fire-breathing time wasters are alive and copying and pasting huge swaths of support for KJVO garbage. It puts a bad taste in my mouth every time I come here to have to wade through it.
 

xlsdraw

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This forum leans heavily anti-KJVO, always has. Yet you start a thread to cry about the minority of posters. Childish.

As a matter of fact, Bob claimed he started this forum, at least in part, because of his strong anti-KJVO position. He was quite open about it.

There are at least a few posters that seem to think their life's calling is to be anti-KJVO advocates. Yet I don't think they've succeeded in driving a single KJVO only poster from their conviction based position.

You've even got at least one poster that calls KJVO a cult. That should be a violation of the questioning people's salvation policy, but Baptist Board has always given that poster a pass, while at the same time, allows apostasy to be routinely published.

I find it satisfying that Bob can't even sign on to his anti-KJVO forum.
 
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Piper

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Yeah, I think KJVO is pretty close to a cult. But I never question anyone's salvation. That is between them and Christ.
1. I am not crying.
2. I am just pointing out that I am tired of wading through the long, cut-and-paste posts of the Fire-Breathers. Why do people think they can cut and paste long detailed arguments and think anyone will read them?
 

xlsdraw

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Yeah, I think KJVO is pretty close to a cult. But I never question anyone's salvation. That is between them and Christ.
1. I am not crying.
2. I am just pointing out that I am tired of wading through the long, cut-and-paste posts of the Fire-Breathers. Why do people think they can cut and paste long detailed arguments and think anyone will read them?

I suppose then it must be okay for me to view anti-KJVO as a cult.
 

Piper

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I suppose then it must be okay for me to view anti-KJVO as a cult.
I guess that depends on if that fits what a cult is. How do you define a cult? i define it as anyone who does not believe that salvation is by Faith alone in Christ (Defined as the God man, fully God, fully man) alone by grace alone.
 

JonC

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You've even got at least one poster that calls KJVO a cult. That should be a violation of the questioning people's salvation policy, but Baptist Board has always given that poster a pass, while at the same time, allows apostasy to be routinely published.
The reason is calling a group a "cult" is not questioning their salvation. A person can believe absolute correct doctrine and not be saved. A person can believe erroneous doctrine and be saved.

Apostasy is never allowed on this forum.
 

Logos1560

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Man, the fire-breathing time wasters are alive and copying and pasting huge swaths of support for KJVO garbage.

In post #1 and post #4 in this thread, it is clear that you referred to KJV-only posters as copying and pasting huge swaths.
KJV-only posters such as Alan Gross and JD731 often make longer posts than I make.
 

Conan

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The King James Version is a fantastic Version that should be scholarly promoted. The onlyist on the other hand give false witness often. It is wearysome to wade through a long post to point out false witness. But the false witness can hurt other believers so I believe it's right to point it out.
 

tyndale1946

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Man, the fire-breathing time wasters are alive and copying and pasting huge swaths of support for KJVO garbage. It puts a bad taste in my mouth every time I come here to have to wade through it.

Just PM RevMitchell, he's getting tired of the BB and is starting his own... Maybe he'll put you on his staff where, you can make the rules... KJVO's are not allowed... Until then follow post #2... Brother Glen:)
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
The issue we have had with KJVO is simply that they demean other translations ,(which is a violation of BB rules).

KJVO people have a preference and an opinion. But so do others.

My best suggestion for KJVO is to realize that other people disagree. If you do that then you can argue your position as a KJV preferred member.

Also, it is not wrong to debate, in a Christian manner....realizing other Christians disagree...the reason you believe whatever version you like is a better translation.
 

Piper

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In post #1 and post #4 in this thread, it is clear that you referred to KJV-only posters as copying and pasting huge swaths.
KJV-only posters such as Alan Gross and JD731 often make longer posts than I make.
I ain't namin' names.
 

Piper

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Just PM RevMitchell, he's getting tired of the BB and is starting his own... Maybe he'll put you on his staff where, you can make the rules... KJVO's are not allowed... Until then follow post #2... Brother Glen:)
Haha. I went to his forum. 4 members.
 

JD731

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I think this site is dominated by those of the Reformed groups. It is my conviction that one of the reasons we have so many English translations is because the scriptures are not needed for an argument for Reformed doctrine so they have sanctioned many of them. Reformation doctrines are only loosely based on these translations. Therefore it really doesn't natter if they are inconsistent to a degree. The real authority for them are church fathers and high profile celebrity preachers and authors whose names they drop regularly and some of the 'confessions." These sources have already made the defense for their faith in these Calvinistic doctrines and there are only a few people who are actually willing to engage in a discussion of their own personal studies that caused them to arrive at the conviction that they are what the translations teach.

Whether I am defending God's prerogative of giving his own testimony in his own words or just defending the faith, I attempt to do it by showing what is said by God in context and by giving enough scripture to affirm its truth. I do not quote other men. I know what I personally believe and I am able to teach it myself

For instance, Piper (This is the same name as one of the Reformed sages) said in one of his comments something like by faith alone, by grace alone, and by some other things alone. Well, I think that is a silly doctrine that is not taught by the scriptures. It is a made up formula that has just become a clique' among Reformed folks because of the celebrity who made it up. It has become authority and something that will take one out of the faith if it is disagreed with.

The truth is that faith and grace does not work alone in the salvation of a sinner. It is by grace through faith. See how easy that doctrine is to refute.
 

Logos1560

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It is my conviction that one of the reasons we have so many English translations is because the scriptures are not needed for an argument for Reformed doctrine so they have sanctioned many of them.

You do not prove your personal, subjective conviction to be true. I am not a member of any Reformed group.

Perhaps the Scriptures are not needed for most of the arguments for human, non-scriptural KJV-only teaching. The fallacies evident in many KJV-only arguments are not in agreement with the doctrine of truth taught in Scripture.

The Bible doctrines of inspiration and preservation are misunderstood, misrepresented, and distorted by the added, human, non-scriptural KJV-only opinions that make up much of KJV-only teaching.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Man, the fire-breathing time wasters are alive and copying and pasting huge swaths of support for KJVO garbage. It puts a bad taste in my mouth every time I come here to have to wade through it.
Why do you allow this to disrupt your calm mental state. Personally, I don’t pay them any attention.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Yeah, I think KJVO is pretty close to a cult. But I never question anyone's salvation. That is between them and Christ.
1. I am not crying.
2. I am just pointing out that I am tired of wading through the long, cut-and-paste posts of the Fire-Breathers. Why do people think they can cut and paste long detailed arguments and think anyone will read them?
Do you read them? There is such a thing as the ‘Ignore Feature.’
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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I think this site is dominated by those of the Reformed groups. It is my conviction that one of the reasons we have so many English translations is because the scriptures are not needed for an argument for Reformed doctrine so they have sanctioned many of them. Reformation doctrines are only loosely based on these translations. Therefore it really doesn't natter if they are inconsistent to a degree. The real authority for them are church fathers and high profile celebrity preachers and authors whose names they drop regularly and some of the 'confessions." These sources have already made the defense for their faith in these Calvinistic doctrines and there are only a few people who are actually willing to engage in a discussion of their own personal studies that caused them to arrive at the conviction that they are what the translations teach.

Whether I am defending God's prerogative of giving his own testimony in his own words or just defending the faith, I attempt to do it by showing what is said by God in context and by giving enough scripture to affirm its truth. I do not quote other men. I know what I personally believe and I am able to teach it myself

For instance, Piper (This is the same name as one of the Reformed sages) said in one of his comments something like by faith alone, by grace alone, and by some other things alone. Well, I think that is a silly doctrine that is not taught by the scriptures. It is a made up formula that has just become a clique' among Reformed folks because of the celebrity who made it up. It has become authority and something that will take one out of the faith if it is disagreed with.

The truth is that faith and grace does not work alone in the salvation of a sinner. It is by grace through faith. See how easy that doctrine is to refute.
So JD don’t candy coat it, come out and tell us what you really think about the Reformed! :D
 
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