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KJVo Refuse to Answer

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by Phillip, Dec 18, 2004.

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  1. HankD

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    That would be the Scrivener 1894 Greek New Testament. Obviously produced after the fact of the AV. It is a distillation of the various TR's (Stephanus, Erasmus, Beza) which apparently the KJV translators drew from to produce the AV1611 along with some Vulgate and "former translations" unique readings.

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    #141 HankD, Dec 26, 2004
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    robycop3: Again, Slambo...WHICH TR EDITION is the "official" one?

    Slambo:Which ever one(s) behind God's word,the KJV.

    OK, Slambo, WHICH EDITION of the KJV is the "official" one?

    To be perfect, there hasta be one "official" KJV edition whose NT is perfectly translated from the "official" perfect edition of the TR. WHICH ONE?
     
    #142 robycop3, Dec 26, 2004
  3. MasterWalk

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    I'm very sorry if I started this debate about different Bible versions.
    I just meant by me useing the Tim LaHaye Prophecy Study Bible that I just need more help in understanding the Bible than other people seem to need.
    I also like the Scofield Bible too. [​IMG]
     
    #143 MasterWalk, Dec 26, 2004
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    You didn't start it. It just keeps going and going and going ...
     
    #144 rsr, Dec 26, 2004
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    MasterWalk...As RSR said, the BV debate keeps on going, ad nauseum. However, we have a Christian DUTY to refute false doctrines, and long as anyone advocates or presents a false doctrine, there will be certain ones of us who will refute it.

    As for YOUR choice of Bible version(s) please go with whatever version(s) to which you feel guided by the Holy Spirit, or that your pastor recommends.

    But I hope you see here that GOD is NOT LIMITED to just one version in ANY language. Those who insist He IS so limited cannot present us any PROOF of this...and the knockout punch is that SCRIPTURE ITSELF doesn't support any such notion...it's entirely MAN-MADE.

    It's God's will that EVERYONE have His word in an understandable format. Thst's part of why there are so many different English versions. After all, GOD CREATED THE PEOPLE, HIS WORD, AND ALL LANGUAGES. If the Lahaye Study Bible is best for YOU, then continue to use it.
     
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    No argument here.. [​IMG]
     
    #146 Slambo, Dec 26, 2004
  7. robycop3

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    Slambo, the original question was, WHICH EDITION of the KJV is "THE" perfect one, and why? Since you mentioned the TR, WHICH EDITION is the perfect one, and why? Is it the one that the perfect edition of the KJV was made from? While Hank mentions the Scrivener GREEK NT, that's NOT the answer to our question.

    Can you answer, or not?
     
    #147 robycop3, Dec 26, 2004
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    No argument here.. [​IMG] </font>[/QUOTE]Then I assume you have no problems with the NKJV?
     
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    You did not start the debate. As a matter of fact, I think I started this thread by asking the questions that KJVo's refuse to answer.
     
    #149 Phillip, Dec 26, 2004
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    Which edition of the TR was used to produce the AV1611?

    Trick question. There WAS NO TR in 1611.

    Back to the real question at hand:
    Which KJV version is the correct one? The perfect one? The infalible one? The word-for-word Word?
     
    #150 Dr. Bob, Dec 27, 2004
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    Who and which cult? Where did this argument start? I know it has been going on a while now. But I seem to remember it was the same when the KJV came out. It was the 'heratic text' of it's day.
     
    #151 kennethc, Dec 27, 2004
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    The letter-for-letter Word of God?
     
    #152 NaasPreacher (C4K), Dec 27, 2004
  13. Slambo

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    Just because it wasn't called the TR until a few years later doesn't mean it didn't exist in 1611..
     
    #153 Slambo, Dec 27, 2004
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    Originally posted by robycop3:
    Seeing as how the KJVO myth itself is a lie started by a cult member......Just add one and one...

    Who and which cult? Where did this argument start? I know it has been going on a while now. But I seem to remember it was the same when the KJV came out. It was the 'heratic text' of it's day.

    http://www.christianity.com/partner/Article_Display_Page/0,,PTID43667%7CCHID152162%7CCIID447152,00.html

    This link should answer your questions. Feel free to check out its veracity by other sources.
     
    #154 robycop3, Dec 27, 2004
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    Actually "Onlyism" started long before 1611, RE:The Latin Vulgate:
    "Those who do not learn from history..."

    HankD
     
    #155 HankD, Dec 27, 2004
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    Maybe that's where Dr. Ruckman received his "advanced revelation" idea from, Hank.
     
    #156 robycop3, Dec 27, 2004
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    Now that you mention it, I do believe he mentions that he has had a brush with Catholicism.

    HankD
     
    #157 HankD, Dec 27, 2004
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    Just like the AV1611 existed hundreds of years earlier than 1611, it just wasn't called it until 1611 . . .

    Are you certifiable?
     
    #158 Dr. Bob, Dec 27, 2004
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    Dr. Bob, there wasn't any received text in 1611?
     
    #159 manchester, Dec 28, 2004
  20. Slambo

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    It later became KNOWN as the textus Receptus.
     
    #160 Slambo, Dec 28, 2004
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